Marbles Woodcraft

[nifman]

Here is a link but the pictures are gone. I may be able to borrow the knife for pictures, but I will not see the guy that bought it until April. I got the knife and sheath for $149. A good deal, the knife was so so but the sheath was nice,
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pat-Pend-Marble ... 328wt_1362

Dennis aka nifman

[Miller Bro's]

Thank you Dennis I appreciate that

[stagman]

Webster Marble applied for the Woodcraft patent in 1915...these models were stamped Pat.Pend. on the off side
Patent was awarded in february of 1916...these were stamped Pat'd 1916 on the off side
Patent ran out in mid 1920's and the Woody was copied by Case, KA-BAR, several German cutlerly outfits,
really the most copied fixed blade knife I know of in history !!!

Marble's called the thumb rest "checkered" in 1915, and this was on all the Woodcrafts made
Thumb rest went from checkered to "file back" about 2-3 years after the start of production,
then just before WW-1, they went to what they called a "comb back" thumb rest,
regardless, thumb rest was present on the 1st 50 years they made em...after the Marble
family sold the company in early 1950's, I have seen several without a thumb rest...
1997-2001 during the Lauerman / Stewart era at Marble's, they all had thumb rests and the blade
after 85 yrs of being 4 1/2" was made by Mike to be 4 3/4"...my favorite being a touch longer
Gorgeous Woodies in this post fella's !!!

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[jerryd6818]

I believe this one came from the 1999-2001 Mike Stewart era. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The thumb rest is plain. The blade is 4¾".

[knife7knut]

Some beautiful stag being shown here!
My only Woodcraft is a 1916 stamped one with the original(I think)sheath. When I got it the threaded tang was sticking out about 1/4 of an inch and the nut was loose.Rather than make a couple of spacers for it I ground off the tang and made a tool to tighten the nut. Oh well it is still a nice knife.

[stagman]

When Mike came to Marble's Jerry..they finished up all the blades that was in the factory
before going into regular production...or it could be a over run for an organization or club
that wanted older pattern Woodcraft..amazing the runs from 1 to 2 to 100 knives that they did for the public.. customer service from Stewart and Lauerman like I have never saw before with any knife outfit,,,saw several birds eye maple handle's with logo's on them over the yrs, alot of clubs in the UP
you got a scarcer one there with no etch...and it was in the latter part of Mike's tenure there that they made
the change in blade length after looking it up, not at the start

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[jerryd6818]

Thanks Will. It's good to get the story straight from someone who knows the details.

[stagman]

And Jerry...I was wrong by 2 1/2 yrs.... that 4 3/4" blade came on line in late 2001
They then got rid of the Bobcat box and went to the box you see with the Webster Marble pic on it
The stamp also changed, Gladstone MI. U.S.A. was eliminated and they were just stamped
with the Banner stamp Marble's
Good thing I made notes over the yrs about stuff I was curious about, this getting old gig ain't so fun sometimes !!!
Thanks Jerry for bringing my mistake to light so no one else gets off track, 1 more great thing about AAPK surfacing, ya got to love it !!!

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[knife7knut]

Almost forgot this one! Got this from a friend of mine who had a bunch of Marbles stuff. Don't know the era of it but I still have the original box.Will that help date it stagman?

[jerryd6818]

When this subject came up before, Stagman wrote --->

"Stagman
Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:01 am
They used Bobcat boxes 1997-2001 Jerry......you can also tell by the 1997-98 years...the
knives were all stamped Marble's Gladstone Mi USA....1999-2001 they were laser etch stamped the same thing
You can tell "the exact" years Stewart era knives were made from 1998 to 2001 by the color sequence of the spacers
So Stewart era knives are quite easily identified
I have several in my store, check stamps and spacers and you will see what I mean"

[stagman]

Jerry has ya all set up Ray...notice the stamp, not laser stamped, but stamped into the steel
thats one of them centennials they made in 1998 celebrating 100 yrs of manufactured... made several
different patterns...as far as I think I know, some of the patterns were by
order only. so there is not that many around, nice one bud...
see the weather has been a bit chilly back in the mitten,
glad I am in the desert feeling a bit cool today at 67 degrees,

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[jerryd6818]

Will, did you ever break it down to year made on the spacer color coding? (a list)

[stagman]

Where do you want me to post the code Jerry ???
Code runs from 1997 to 2002
It will take a bit of time with all the letters and dashes
Will do it over the weekend, gonna watch that Michigan game right now

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[Miller Bro's]

Here's a leather handle one I have.

[jerryd6818]

Where do you want me to post the code Jerry ???
Code runs from 1997 to 2002
It will take a bit of time with all the letters and dashes
Will do it over the weekend, gonna watch that Michigan game right now

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

I think right here in this forum in it's own thread would work best. Any disagreement, shout it out. Maybe Dimitri, Phil or Dale could make it a sticky here.

[tongueriver]

Obviously Stagman has the inside track on latter-day "real" Marbles knives. Even after reading the posts i am bewildered. Stagman, write a little book on them (digital) and some of us would prolly make it worth your time; you could at least be poor and famous!
I have two old ones (stag on stag woodcraft and ideal) and I did have a boy scout woodcraft (leather handle) but I think somebody else has it now. Hmm.... somehow my ability to post images has disappeared.

[stagman]

Tr, I just posted in fixed blades the dating system for 1997-2002 knives
hope it helps ya all out...I have talked to a lot of Marble's collectors over the yrs
living in the Mitten part time, and I actually always kept a little note pad with me
at shows, auctions, estate sales, etc. and gathered a lot of usefull tid bits from collectors

By the way TR, I looked up that big Bark River you just got, if I find one in antique
bone stag, I am gonna get it, heck of a piece of cutlery !!!

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[garddogg56]

You guys are showing some nice Gladestones I have two that I use every hunting season as the original sheaths are loooong gone.

[edge213]

I'm really enjoying these Marbles.

[stagman]

I am really enjoying em too edge213....and garddogg, what a gorgeous old
4 pin Ideal with the double hilt on it, them with the full guard and stag on stag
handles are harder to find...and that dude looks sharp !!!

Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

[garddogg56]

Thanks for the link Stagman before old Ben past he did replace the sheath with a modern Marbles one.As you can see by the scratches Ben was rough with a stone ,I will never buff them out cause that's the way he was..

[knife7knut]

Probably posted these before but here they are all together for a New Year's Eve party!

[stagman]

Ya just had to show off that fish knife you found setting on the $1.00 table at that estate sale did'nt ya

[Producer]

Love a Woodcraft

[tongueriver]

Found a pic.