Legends of Arthur and Camelot

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:09 pm

Hey To All;
Is there any interest in starting a post about The Legendary Blades of Cutlery.
Do all of you know that the Gerber Miming was probably named for Miming the bladesmith to Charlemagne. The Gerber Excaliber of course was for the giant sword that only Arthur was able to pull from the rock or was it the supposed real one that the Lady of the Lake presented to Arthur.

This is true Lore and a part of the fun of knives but I have no desire to hijack another forum with this legend. By the way Pixies got into everything as the Gerber Pixie is a multi use knife. Can you find the connection to Guardian,Balmung, French
etc. I think this might be found interesting by your children or grandchildren as there are several new computer games on the subject.

If there is any interest we shall proceed.
wb

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:23 pm

One of the trade marks of Thomas Ellin & Company is Vulcan. A Vulcan is a mythical character, part blacksmith and part alchemist, who works fire or the forge to make things of use from the raw materials of nature. As well as being a warp capable civilization reknowned for their logic.

s-k

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:36 pm

Hi SK:
I see you have the jist of it. Now if we can drum up 7 or 8 more participants we will proceed. Snickersnee was the legendary blade of Koko the Lord High Executioner from Gilbert and Sullivans "The Mikado".

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:43 pm

What in the universe?

Vulcan? Are you guys out of your vulcan minds??

Lancelot.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:45 pm

W.B.

I always thought the Gerber Miming was named after "Ham" and Pete Gerber???

Lobo

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:50 pm

I don't know much about Legendary Blades of Cutlery, but I sure as heck would like to read about it. I'm all for it, anything about knife legends/history is of interest to me.

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:50 pm

No, But it may have been little John and Pygmalion! Did you know that Joyeuse was Charlamagnes trusty blade forged by Miming.
wb

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:54 pm

Hey Lobo;
Did you take note that you did it or was it on purpose. That Spocks lineage Vulcan came from legend.
wb

Hukk;
Go to google and key in King Arthur Legend of Camelot. Days and days of reading.
wb

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:12 pm

In Chaucer's Cantebury Tales (14th cent) 'The Reeves Tale' the Miller of Trumpington is described as carrying a 'Sheffield Thwitel' a wooden-handled fixed-blade in his waist-belt. Could be the origin of the word whittle

s-k

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:21 pm

Now then.....

This legend's favorite knife was named "Mack".....

Bill

P. S.
WB....How am I doing?

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:41 pm

OK...OK...

On topic as always...

Is it known for sure if Caladbolg, or possibly Caladcholg, were somehow related to Arthur's sword? I'll let you historians deal with that one.....I'll go get the popcorn.

William of Scottsdale

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:44 pm

Mac Man, Very cool El Lobo

s-k

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:54 pm

El Lobo wrote:OK...OK...

On topic as always...

Is it known for sure if Caladbolg, or possibly Caladcholg, were somehow related to Arthur's sword? I'll let you historians deal with that one.....I'll go get the popcorn.

William of Scottsdale

See if this link makes any sense. I think from the Arthur anology it means a source of power, in this case, for a Celtic ruler. Although I'm not sure about the chopping of hilltops. Maybe similar to Paul Bunyon's Axe.

s-k

http://c10-ss-1-lb.cnet.com/reference/Caladbolg

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:17 pm

Dare I: Sir William of Scottsdale;
In reply to your question. Seek and find enlightenment.

In Arthurian legend, the sword belonging to King Arthur. ... Latin Caliburnus, from Middle Welsh Caletuwlch or Middle Irish Caladbolg, a legendary sword
wb

PS; William is "The Conquerer " name of four Kings of England.
PPS; Twhitel is a large knife known also as a whittle. Don't no if it has anything to do with the paring down of wood or not.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:11 am

What? No mention of the Vorpal Blade??

Lewis Carroll would be rolling over in his grave. I guess Arthur had no connection to the Jabberwocky.

Oh, well.....

WB,
Start the thread. I think it will be interesting. Living in Oregon (as we both do) and having spent 10+ years selling cutlery in Oregon in the 1980s & early 1990s, I do have a bit of interest in Gerber and the other cutlery companies that are "Home Grown", Kershaw, Al Mar, Benchmade and later CRKT (Columbia River Knife & Tool). Interestingly enough, Al Mar was a designer for Pete Gerber. Pete Kershaw also worked for Pete Gerber, as a buyer, if I recall correctly. Both went on to open their own companies. Al died in 1992. He was a really great guy and a good friend. Les de Asis, owner of Benchmade is also a really nice guy. Les is still doing great & Benchmade is going strong, though he didn't have any connection to Gerber (to my knowledge). CRKT was formed mainly be people who worked for Kershaw & Gerber.

My point is this, from Gerber came three more knife companies, Al Mar, Kershaw & CRKT, all Oregon based companies. So..........background on Gerber would be quite interesting to me.

Incidentally I met Pete Gerber for the first time a couple years ago. He seemed like a nice guy.

Interesting...........I do know that there are some jerks in the cutlery industry, I just haven't met them...................maybe it is a good thing I don't live in Tennessee, or I probably wouldn't be able to make that statement.

Dale

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:01 pm

Hi Dale and others;
Will revisit this post in a while. Just got a lead on some gerber-12 documents. Will be busy for awhile.
wb