Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[doglegg]

Can't wait to hear how it shoots, Ray.

[Paladin]

Very cool Ray! Do you have a CC&R FFL?

Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.

Ray

[OLDE CUTLER]

I received my September 2018 issue of "American Rifleman" last week. The cover photo shows a Ruger Precision Rimfire .22 Long Rifle with a very good writeup within the magazine.
I am not a hunter, more of a weekend warrior, long range target practice.
I see we have many skilled gun collectors within AAPK.
This is my first post within "Guns & Gun Related Stuff."

https://www.turners.com/ruger/ruger-pre ... r-1-660348

I had a Ruger .22 Cal rifle (Forgot which Model) many years ago that I used to teach my two children gun safety. Had nothing but problems with the Ruger, mostly cartridge ejection and lock-up. It was however, a very low end rifle.
I am seeking your opinions on the featured Ruger and what Scope you would recommend for Long and Short range target practice only.
The Precision Rimfire ships with a 30-m.o.a. rail.
I do not participate in competitions, therefore a big dollar scope is not required.

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I have had real good luck with the Bushnell Trophy line of scopes. There are scopes that are better, but cost much more, and there are cheaper scopes that don't perform as well. The one I use on rimfire for long range is a variable 6 to 18 power with adjustable objective. I have also used this one on centerfire varmint rifles with good results. The one have now is over 25 years old and has been on several different rifles. It has a big ding in it where one time when I was prairie dog hunting in western South Dakota, I was carrying the rifle it was mounted on over the shoulder on a sling when a plastic buckle broke and the whole thing fell right on to the railroad tracks on which I was walking. I carefully picked it up expecting to see the objective lens shattered, but except for the ding in the bell end, no damage. However on my first shot at a prairie dog about 300 yards out, I noticed that it was no longer sighted in. I picked out a clod of dirt at that distance and fired only 3 shots to get it resighted. Besides the 6-18x, I have 2 Trophy 4-12x, one 3-9x, and 2 pistol scopes 2-6x, and have never had any trouble with any of them. Many people like the Leupold scopes, and they are very good, but the price on them these days is steep. The Trophy scopes I have are all over 20 years old, and at that time were made in Japan. I am not sure where they are made today, most likely China. I don't have any experience or knowledge of the rifle in the article, so I can't comment on that. I would look for other online reviews on the rifle you mention also, as the Rifleman articles on guns they test tend to be glowing endorsements, they are not going to find fault with a manufacturer that buys advertising from them.

[OLDE CUTLER]

New acquisition! Picked it up at the local flea market...not really. Sure am glad to have landed it. It is a model 1895 Winchester, made in 1925. I love old lever actions.

Ray

That Model 1895 is sweet!! I always wanted one, but have never owned one. About the only criticism I have ever heard about the 1895 is that unlike other lever actions that you carry with the hand just ahead of the trigger guard and balance there perfectly, this doesn't work with the 1895 because of the box magazine located there. (some criticism huh???) Also love those peep sights they make for the "95. Since I had cataract surgery on both eyes, I am still able to shoot iron and peep sights on lever guns. I really don't like the appearance of a scope on a lever action, but sometimes it is a necessity.

[Old Folder]

Thanks for all the Scope info OLDE CUTLER.
Gives me a head start on research.

[zp4ja]

Thanks for all the Scope info OLDE CUTLER.
Gives me a head start on research.

I suggest the Vortex Diamondback line. Lifetime transferable no receipt required warranty. No questions asked. In the scenario Olde Cutler describes above, Vortex would repair or replace free of charge. Negligence or not, no questions asked. On a claim I had, they paid overnight shipping both ways too. I shipped Thursday and it arrived back the following Tuesday (5 days including weekend).
I have a Diamondback 4x16 x42mm on my ground squirrel.17 HMR. Likely under 200 bucks and excellent glass.
I have seven or eight of their scopes mainly Viper and Razor line, two sets of binoculars and a spotting scope. Only brand of optics I have now after year of tinkering with others. They have quite a few different lines/ levels of quality but really difficult to discern any difference to the eye.
I have their top of the line scope on my long range .308 and it stands up to the highest dollar NightForce or and other crazy expensive German top of the line scope you can think of.

Additionally, no need to shop around as MSRP
is enforced so same price anywhere besides maybe free shipping versus not.

The scope also has hold over marks in the reticle and they have a free online ballistic calculator the you plug in your cartridge ballistic and it will tell you how many yards each holdover hash is on the reticle.

Jerry

[Old Folder]

Thanks Jerry More great information, I appreciate it sir.
If we re ever invaded, I want to be your neighbor.

[zp4ja]

Thanks Jerry More great information, I appreciate it sir.
If we re ever invaded, I want to be your neighbor.

Glad to help Dan.

I made an error in price for Diamondback I mentioned. They are about 350 bucks. However, Vortex does have the Crossfire II and Copperhead lines also. I have no experience with these but they start at about 170 best I can tell depending on model. I am sure they have good quality for price if they are like the other Vortex lines like the Diamondback, Viper and Razor lines.

I know you are not doing competition shooting but regardless nice to have a dependable scope to match a good firearm. Fun when the only variable on shanking a shot is the shooter not the setup. Still recommend the Diamondback or higher line of Vortex was if you are willing to drop the cash on it.

The Ruger bolt rifles seem pretty nice. Don’t own one but a guy at the range had a Ruger 700 in .308 that shot pretty good. Same concept and design as the .22 you are contemplating. One note may be that you may wish to check if smaller capacity magazines are available if you are bench shooting. Depends on your setup but a high capacity mag on the bench can hinder your elevation and tight hold. Again, all depends on you setup. For example, when I shoot an AR10 pr AR15 at the range, I use 10 round and 20 round magazines respectively. Instead of 20 and 30 round magazines respectively.
Why? Because in my bench setup the longer magazines hit the bench and interfere with my hold.

Food for thought. Good luck. Let us know what you pickup and how it works out.

Regards, Jerry

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Very cool Ray! Do you have a CC&R FFL?

Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.

Ray

Sorry - I meant "C&R" (I guess I stuttered on that C) - it means "Curios & Relics". It is a specific category of firearms that is for old guns (usually over 50 years old). There is a special FFL (called a type 03) you can get that applies only to C&R guns, and it is much easier to get than a regular gun dealer FFL. Having it allows you to buy guns classified as C&R without having to go through a gun shop - you can even buy mail order and have them shipped to your home!

I don't have one - but I always wanted one...

[Paladin]

Very cool Ray! Do you have a CC&R FFL?

Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.

Ray

Sorry - I meant "C&R" (I guess I stuttered on that C) - it means "Curios & Relics". It is a specific category of firearms that is for old guns (usually over 50 years old). There is a special FFL (called a type 03) you can get that applies only to C&R guns, and it is much easier to get than a regular gun dealer FFL. Having it allows you to buy guns classified as C&R without having to go through a gun shop - you can even buy mail order and have them shipped to your home!

I don't have one - but I always wanted one...

I sure learned something here. I never even heard of that. Thanks TFL.

Ray

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

The Feds make a big deal out of saying that an FFL-03 does not give you the ability to buy/sell as a gun dealer - it is only for buying/selling for your personal collection. I'm not sure how they determine the difference, but I think there are stiff penalties if they determine that you are buying/selling for profit, not enjoyment.

[Old Folder]

Very cool Ray! Do you have a CC&R FFL?

Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.

Ray

Sorry - I meant "C&R" (I guess I stuttered on that C) - it means "Curios & Relics". It is a specific category of firearms that is for old guns (usually over 50 years old). There is a special FFL (called a type 03) you can get that applies only to C&R guns, and it is much easier to get than a regular gun dealer FFL. Having it allows you to buy guns classified as C&R without having to go through a gun shop - you can even buy mail order and have them shipped to your home!

I don't have one - but I always wanted one...

TwoFlowers;
I think you have your Sons new Condo on your mind?
(CC&Rs) Convenants, Conditions and Restrictions.

Don't feel bad, more then once I have typed "AARP" instead of "AAPK"

[Old Folder]

Thanks Jerry More great information, I appreciate it sir.
If we re ever invaded, I want to be your neighbor.

Glad to help Dan.

I made an error in price for Diamondback I mentioned. They are about 350 bucks. However, Vortex does have the Crossfire II and Copperhead lines also. I have no experience with these but they start at about 170 best I can tell depending on model. I am sure they have good quality for price if they are like the other Vortex lines like the Diamondback, Viper and Razor lines.

I know you are not doing competition shooting but regardless nice to have a dependable scope to match a good firearm. Fun when the only variable on shanking a shot is the shooter not the setup. Still recommend the Diamondback or higher line of Vortex was if you are willing to drop the cash on it.

The Ruger bolt rifles seem pretty nice. Don’t own one but a guy at the range had a Ruger 700 in .308 that shot pretty good. Same concept and design as the .22 you are contemplating. One note may be that you may wish to check if smaller capacity magazines are available if you are bench shooting. Depends on your setup but a high capacity mag on the bench can hinder your elevation and tight hold. Again, all depends on you setup. For example, when I shoot an AR10 pr AR15 at the range, I use 10 round and 20 round magazines respectively. Instead of 20 and 30 round magazines respectively.
Why? Because in my bench setup the longer magazines hit the bench and interfere with my hold.

Food for thought. Good luck. Let us know what you pickup and how it works out.

Regards, Jerry

Excellent information Jerry.
Thank you for taking the time and educating me.
I'm going to print all the info you guys have sent me.
I'll let you all know when I "pull the trigger".

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.

Ray

Sorry - I meant "C&R" (I guess I stuttered on that C) - it means "Curios & Relics". It is a specific category of firearms that is for old guns (usually over 50 years old). There is a special FFL (called a type 03) you can get that applies only to C&R guns, and it is much easier to get than a regular gun dealer FFL. Having it allows you to buy guns classified as C&R without having to go through a gun shop - you can even buy mail order and have them shipped to your home!

I don't have one - but I always wanted one...

TwoFlowers;
I think you have your Sons new Condo on your mind?
(CC&Rs) Convenants, Conditions and Restrictions.

Don't feel bad, more then once I have typed "AARP" instead of "AAPK"

I think you are right!

[carrmillus]

...just noticed my last post was #4440-same as the caliber of my HENRY rifle!!!!..... ...........

[Meridian_Mike]

Here is a fun little project I did a few years ago. A guy gave me a bunch of "junk" in a 5 gal bucket. Down in there was this little Remington model 95 derringer frame. I have always wanted one so I figured I needed to fix this one.....LOL. Well, I finally rounded up enough parts and got it back in working order. Finding 41 rim fire ammo was the hardest part. I finally did manage to round up 5 or 6 of those to the tune of $10 a pop (that was the cheapest price too).

Back in one piece....

Mike

[Quick Steel]

Mike, what a great build. Did you fire a shot? I can understand if you pass on that at $10 bucks a pop. Again, that is a fine accomplishment.

[doglegg]

Great restore Mike. Gunsmith and a knifesmith. Wow

[Meridian_Mike]

Mike, what a great build. Did you fire a shot? I can understand if you pass on that at $10 bucks a pop. Again, that is a fine accomplishment.

Thanks for the complements y'all....
Not fired yet.... I'm afraid it will have to be a big occasion before I waste one of those $10 cartridges.
I thought I had some usable cartridges one time. DGW used to sell a box of reproduced 41 rimfires. Now, even those go for big $$$. The cartridges I have are original antiques. Recon I'll shoot another pistol and just look at this one.....LOL.

Mike

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Mike, that's awesome! Is that little checkered thumb pad on the side of the barrels the ejector?

[jmh58]

MM.. Now that is just plain KOOL!!! Kudos and GREAT job!!! John

[Colonel26]

Mike, that’s about as cool as it gets.

[Miller Bro's]

Nice save!

Is it nickle plated?

[big monk]

Traded a shotgun for this Springfield XDM9 3.8 Compact --- 13 with short mag / 19 with full mag. -- shoots really,really smooth & accurate -- guy I traded with had put the "textured tape" on the grips and I like the feel.

[jerryd6818]

Looks like you might get a better grip with that extended magazine in.