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Re: SHOW US YOUR PETS!!!

Postby Quick Steel » Sat May 06, 2017 6:24 pm

Unk: Beautiful coloration on both dogs. Can't imagine how you got a GSD with color matching the Kangal. As you well know, Kangals are a very powerful breed and highly interesting as they are not common. Do you have livestock that Ahter will be guarding?
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Postby Unk » Sun May 07, 2017 7:44 pm

Hey thanks.

Joshka's mom and dad, as well as siblings were black and tan GSD. The mom had had a few sable and silver colored pups in previous litters, and so we put our name on the list in case she had another. She did, and that's how we wound up with Joshka.

As for Ahter, my wife and daughter somehow got interested in Kangals, and found a retired University of North Texas English professor who had also taught at a university in Turkey back in the 70s / 80s. They raise champion sheep and goats in north Texas (Patteran Dairy Goats in Era, TX), and brought back some pure bred Kangals from Turkey to protect them. We don't have any livestock - Ahter is a house dog. She is very affectionate and loving, and fairly laid-back.

Most of Tamara Taylor's Kangals go out west to ranchers to protect livestock from wolves and grizzly bears, and some have gone to Africa to protect the livestock from Cheetahs, a program that has had great success in saving the cheetahs from being killed by farmers.

This blog was written by Tamara, the lady from who we purchased Ahter:

http://kangaldogs.blogspot.com/
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Re: SHOW US YOUR PETS!!!

Postby Quick Steel » Sun May 07, 2017 8:37 pm

Unk: Thanks for that blog, I read the entire article. A fascinating breed; I was familiar with their use in Africa to protect life stock thus also saving the cheetahs. I read that one of the owners feeds his Kangal once a day. My concern for that is the risk of stomach bloat. I do not know if Kangals are susceptible, but I know that GSDs and many other breeds can experience it. It is of course a life or death crisis requiring immediate surgical intervention. A vet told me the cause is unknown. My theory, which may be completely off base, is that after a heavy meal the dog may be playing or running around a bit with a largely undigested meal in his gut causing the stomach to twist. But until I am proven wrong I will always think it prudent not to let a dog be too active after a main meal. If you know differently, or someday you learn of an explanation, I'd appreciate you informing me via a PM.

But again, congratulations on two superb dogs.
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Postby Unk » Mon May 08, 2017 12:48 am

Hi Quick,

My wife feeds our dogs twice a day, although the food sits out most of the day, so they can eat at their leisure. We haven't ever had any dogs that had stomach issues.

If you are on Facebook, look up "Patteran Dairy Goats". Interesting page. One of Tamara's dogs she sold to a rancher in Montana was killed by a grizzly last year.
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Postby zp4ja » Mon May 08, 2017 3:41 pm

Beautiful dogs Unk!

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Postby Unk » Wed May 10, 2017 3:28 am

Thanks Jerry :)
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Postby djknife13 » Wed May 10, 2017 9:39 pm

Brand new to our home today. Her name is Limerick but we probably will change it to something shorter. She has issues and has been adopted twice and returned twice so we have no illusions that our home will be peaceful for the next month or so. Molly, our three year old Sprinter/Blue healer likes her and they share one issue which is separation anxiety. Limerick is Shepherd and and unknown mix, knows several commands already and after 2 whole hours, I can't imagine why anyone would ever bring her back. We raised an Afghan hound (Tess) and had her 15 years and I'm pretty sure any dog would be a piece of cake after 15 years of Tess. We'll see what she can throw at us in the next few months but come hell or high water, this is now her home. ___Dave
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Postby treefarmer » Thu May 11, 2017 2:03 am

She sure has her eye on you, Dave. What were you doin' to get her to pose? Apparently Molly doesn't care. When our kids were showing cattle, there was always some one waving his hat so the critters would point their ears at the photographer. :)
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Re: SHOW US YOUR PETS!!!

Postby tendots » Thu May 11, 2017 6:57 am

Nice dog,looks to have quite a bit of Belgian shepherd blood(malinois),a breed apriciated for police work. ::tu:: Gus.
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Postby djknife13 » Thu May 11, 2017 11:41 am

I don't know what she's mixed with. The Shepherd is obvious. She is thin for a Shepherd. She heard the camera turn on and posed. She is quick to obey most any command we've thrown at her including "Go lay down". She went into a wire kennel that Molly won't have a thing to do with, and just laid there until on her dog bed. We are having a hard time trying what she could have done to have been returned to the animal shelter twice in two months by two different families. Jane and I adopted two of our children, both girls, siblings 3 and 4 yrs. old about 30 years ago and that went amazingly well. They gave us some pretty normal grief when the hit the teen years, but it was really sweet until then, and we did survive and still all love each other.____Dave

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Re: SHOW US YOUR PETS!!!

Postby tendots » Thu May 11, 2017 1:21 pm

Dave,the Malinois breed has a different conformation as to the German shepherd.Like comparing a Dobermann to a Rottweiler.People who train police dogs prefer Malinois over German shepherd cause they are more agile and have better hips.
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Re: SHOW US YOUR PETS!!!

Postby Quick Steel » Thu May 11, 2017 3:35 pm

Judging a dog's heritage by appearance can be surprisingly difficult. But I agree with tendots that she does look similar to a Belgian [Malinois], a very bright, energetic breed.

djk it might be worthwhile to get some feedback as to why the two returns. If possible. There of course so many possibilities: maybe she is a runner, taking off whenever she can; maybe she attempts to herd small children-part of her shepherd heritage; food aggression, and so forth.
But it may be that this high energy dog wasn't getting enough exercise. I hope you will keep us posted on developments.
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Postby djknife13 » Thu May 11, 2017 5:03 pm

We pushed for as much information as we could and the Shelter was really good to work with. They told us she was very good with children and other pets and especially with small pets. She is very gentle and very good with food. I wish I could run with her and I might try her with a bicycle if she looks like she can handle it. I'm pretty sure she's a runner but we've suffered through that issue before with our Afghan Hound. She would cover 20 miles or so before we could get control of her. They said her most noticeable issue was separation anxiety which our other dog has. We just had them in an outside kennel and they seemed to relax with each other there.___Dave

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Re: SHOW US YOUR PETS!!!

Postby Quick Steel » Thu May 11, 2017 8:38 pm

Interesting info Dave. I had to smile when you wrote you had an Afghan; then you certainly had the epitome of a runner. Beautiful,but one of the great runners. Having a partner, maybe the separation anxiety will diminish for both. We can hope.
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Postby treefarmer » Sat May 13, 2017 5:28 pm

Here are the dogs that live at our place. The one that looks like a pile of leaves is Miss Joy's dog, Flossie, 1/2 Chocolate Lab and 1/2 Red merle Australian Shepherd. They are recognized as a hybrid breed called Aussiedor or Sheprador. She is a 60 pound yard dog, most nights stays in an outside kennel and is loose all day. Joy lets her in when it's too hot or too cold :roll: or when the thunder rolls as it did yesterday afternoon, thus the picture of her on the futon in the office. She gets very nervous during a thunder storm. She is also a blood trailer, she makes quick work of finding a downed deer. She can't pass by a pond without taking a dip, summer or winter. She will also sits patiently by when someone is fishing, but look out when a fish is being landed, she thinks it's hers!
The other one is Felix, a Miniature Dachshund who actually belongs to our daughter but lives with us. That little joker isn't afraid of anything. He barks when he hears thunder and wants to go outside and find it. He attacks the vacuum, the washing machine, the lawnmower and even barks at the tractors. ::shrug:: Layin' there in my recliner he seems to be thinkin', "What do you mean, Your chair? " He is tough on the barn cats with the exception of one who will make him walk way around to avoid gettin' too close.
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