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Those last two over on the Bluegrass thread were unfixable, or at least I couldn't figure them out.
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:mrgreen: Bad grammer, bad spelling, I still love this site! I was wondering how Carmillus got to keep his knife , when I got out of the Army in 1966, all I got to keep was my fatigues, class A uniform, and my DD214, no bayonets, M14's, entrenching tools , or mess kits ::ds:: TERRY
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I hear ya Terry. I too got out in 1966 (September) and all I kept was my sea bag (and contents of course). They patted us down pretty good on Okinawa before they would allow us to continue on to CONUS.


Anyone besides me have any knives enroute??

The post office is trying to drive me insane (yeah, yeah, I know. Short trip.) This one was supposed to be here last Thursday.
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terryl308 wrote::mrgreen: Bad grammer, bad spelling, I still love this site! I was wondering how Carmillus got to keep his knife , when I got out of the Army in 1966, all I got to keep was my fatigues, class A uniform, and my DD214, no bayonets, M14's, entrenching tools , or mess kits ::ds:: TERRY
.......I have several friends who got discharged about the same time that had the military knives, and they had to turn them in,too........never known anyone else who got to keep thier's???......... ::shrug:: ......................
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I was allowed to keep my TL-29 that was issued to me.
I was never asked to turn it in, I thought they were issued to us as personal property. It was an issue that never came up.

Though one possible explanation of why it didn't come up was that I came home on a medevac flight and went to the US Naval Hospital at Oak Knoll (Oakland, CA). I don't even recall going through customs when I cam e back to the US. ::shrug::

What I do Remember-
I remember flying on a medevac flight into Travis AFB (I think it was Travis) and several of us who were ambulatory were allowed to go through the chow line at the base hospital (I think). We walked through the chow line with a huge metal tray and the mess man asked if I wanted eggs. I said, "Sure," and held out my tray. He looked at me like I was stupid and asked, "Fried, scrambled or poached?"
Never having been asked this before in a Marine Corps chow line, and not seeing any eggs in the steam tray in front of him I was thoroughly befuddled, I stammered, “Fried.” He gave me that your-an-idiot-look once again and ask, “over easy, over hard, or sunny side up?” ::uc::
That was the third question in a row just for some eggs and I didn’t even have them yet! I said “sunny side up.”
Then I had to stand there while he cooked them for me. That was kind of cool to have hot eggs in the chow line for breakfast! Them Air Force boys know how to live! ::super_happy::
But, it turns out we hadn’t seen anything yet. After loading my tray with sunny side up eggs, two styles of potatoes, (I did pass on the grits), bacon, ham and sausage I reached the end of the chow line, to the very last mess man, and the very last inquisition before I could actually eat. “Would you like some toast?” “Yes please.” “What kind; white, whole-wheat, sourdough or rye?” (Are you freaking kidding me? Who has rye bread toast for breakfast? Apparently the Air Force!). ::dang::

I finally managed to squeak out a weak answer, as my brain was reeling from all of the questions and of course lack of nutrition. “White,” I managed to the small voice. Then what happened next absolutely defied logic, he handed me two uncooked, pasty white pieces of white bread. Seeing such undercooked toast kind of aroused the Marine in me, I said, “What the…” My comment was cut short when he pointed to the toasters on the next table. I put two pieces of white bread in the toaster, (it was a very fast toaster), and a few seconds later out came two pieces of perfectly toasted white toast! I reached for the butter next to the toaster and spread some on my toast.
Wonder of wonders! Miracles beyond all comprehension! Something happened that I no longer thought was even possible, the rich yellow butter MELTED, ACTUALLY MELTED into the toast! ::ds::

I don’t think I had actually seen butter melt on toast since I had been a civilian. In the Marine Corps, at least in the Old Corps, our toast was always served to us from a pan in the steam tray, and usually a steam tray that was not been turned on. We had several options on our toast in the Old Corps; cold, soggy, stale, moldy, slightly warm, but never HOT! Not once in my 3 years, 9 months and 13 days did I ever eat toast in a Marine Corps mess hall that was hot enough to melt warm butter!
There we were, four medevac-ies standing at these very fast oversized Air Force toasters watching butter melt on hot toast! The mess man finally just handed us a loaf of bread and got out of our way. Well, he was nice enough to take our trays to the table for us, since we were gimpy and crippled and couldn’t lift all the eggs, potatoes, ham, sausage bacon and hot toast with melted butter that we had piled on each of our trays. ::nod::
I think that was the most memorable event upon my landing back in CONUS. ::hmm::

I have no recollection of going through Customs, nor even where my TL-29 was when I was medevaced.
As I recall we were medevac in pajamas, I don’t think I had my jungle utilities on. My TL-29 may have come in with my seabag, a week or so after I made it to Oak Knoll.

Obviously the only thing I had on my mind was hot food! ::facepalm::
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orvet wrote:I have no recollection of going through Customs,
Well la-de-da. Ain't you somthin' with your butter melting hot toast and eggs the way you want them. I recall getting eggs to order (uh, sort of) or at least off the grill on weekends at Cherry Point or maybe the cook was cooking them on the grill and flipping them into a steam table pan. Maybe at other bases but Cherry Point is the only one I semi-recall.

Now at Ft. Bliss, the Army base at El Paso Texas. That's another whole kettle of fish.

You don't recall going through customs? I'll bet you don't recall going through customs on the way over either. Because we never went through customs. Ever! When we landed in Spain for Operation Steel Pike, when we landed in the Canary Islands and went on liberty in Las Palmas nor when we returned to the States. We also didn't go through customs on Okinawa on the way to Viet Nam or once we landed at Da Nang. No customs when we landed in Taipei Taiwan for R&R, Okinawa on the way back from Viet Nam nor at MCAS El Toro when we got back to the land of the big PX. We also never had a passport because military troop movements don't need no stinkin' passports nor do they do the stinkin' customs dance.

We need to talk to someone who was on Embassy Duty and see how that was handled because I doubt they made a mass movement when they reported for duty in some foreign land.
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orvet wrote:I was allowed to keep my TL-29 that was issued to me.
I was never asked to turn it in, I thought they were issued to us as personal property. It was an issue that never came up.

Though one possible explanation of why it didn't come up was that I came home on a medevac flight and went to the US Naval Hospital at Oak Knoll (Oakland, CA). I don't even recall going through customs when I cam e back to the US. ::shrug::

What I do Remember-
I remember flying on a medevac flight into Travis AFB (I think it was Travis) and several of us who were ambulatory were allowed to go through the chow line at the base hospital (I think). We walked through the chow line with a huge metal tray and the mess man asked if I wanted eggs. I said, "Sure," and held out my tray. He looked at me like I was stupid and asked, "Fried, scrambled or poached?"
Never having been asked this before in a Marine Corps chow line, and not seeing any eggs in the steam tray in front of him I was thoroughly befuddled, I stammered, “Fried.” He gave me that your-an-idiot-look once again and ask, “over easy, over hard, or sunny side up?” ::uc::
That was the third question in a row just for some eggs and I didn’t even have them yet! I said “sunny side up.”
Then I had to stand there while he cooked them for me. That was kind of cool to have hot eggs in the chow line for breakfast! Them Air Force boys know how to live! ::super_happy::
But, it turns out we hadn’t seen anything yet. After loading my tray with sunny side up eggs, two styles of potatoes, (I did pass on the grits), bacon, ham and sausage I reached the end of the chow line, to the very last mess man, and the very last inquisition before I could actually eat. “Would you like some toast?” “Yes please.” “What kind; white, whole-wheat, sourdough or rye?” (Are you freaking kidding me? Who has rye bread toast for breakfast? Apparently the Air Force!). ::dang::

I finally managed to squeak out a weak answer, as my brain was reeling from all of the questions and of course lack of nutrition. “White,” I managed to the small voice. Then what happened next absolutely defied logic, he handed me two uncooked, pasty white pieces of white bread. Seeing such undercooked toast kind of aroused the Marine in me, I said, “What the…” My comment was cut short when he pointed to the toasters on the next table. I put two pieces of white bread in the toaster, (it was a very fast toaster), and a few seconds later out came two pieces of perfectly toasted white toast! I reached for the butter next to the toaster and spread some on my toast.
Wonder of wonders! Miracles beyond all comprehension! Something happened that I no longer thought was even possible, the rich yellow butter MELTED, ACTUALLY MELTED into the toast! ::ds::

I don’t think I had actually seen butter melt on toast since I had been a civilian. In the Marine Corps, at least in the Old Corps, our toast was always served to us from a pan in the steam tray, and usually a steam tray that was not been turned on. We had several options on our toast in the Old Corps; cold, soggy, stale, moldy, slightly warm, but never HOT! Not once in my 3 years, 9 months and 13 days did I ever eat toast in a Marine Corps mess hall that was hot enough to melt warm butter!
There we were, four medevac-ies standing at these very fast oversized Air Force toasters watching butter melt on hot toast! The mess man finally just handed us a loaf of bread and got out of our way. Well, he was nice enough to take our trays to the table for us, since we were gimpy and crippled and couldn’t lift all the eggs, potatoes, ham, sausage bacon and hot toast with melted butter that we had piled on each of our trays. ::nod::
I think that was the most memorable event upon my landing back in CONUS. ::hmm::

I have no recollection of going through Customs, nor even where my TL-29 was when I was medevaced.
As I recall we were medevac in pajamas, I don’t think I had my jungle utilities on. My TL-29 may have come in with my seabag, a week or so after I made it to Oak Knoll.

Obviously the only thing I had on my mind was hot food! ::facepalm::
And may God bless you for going thru all that for me. ::pray::

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.........does anyone have one of the all metal military knives that is date stamped earlier than 1958??.......seems like i read on one of the forums somewhere that 1958 was the earliest date stamp???................ ::shrug:: ............................
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jerryd6818 wrote:You don't recall going through customs? I'll bet you don't recall going through customs on the way over either. Because we never went through customs. Ever!

We need to talk to someone who was on Embassy Duty and see how that was handled because I doubt they made a mass movement when they reported for duty in some foreign land.
As you know Jerry I was in the 1st Marine Air Wing and being in the Air Wing we were all stationed in Japan and sent TAD in country. That way we were not counted in the troop count in the war theater.
I actually did go through customs when I went back from Nam Phong to Japan. They ran us through customs somewhere up around Tokyo probably either Tachikawa AFB or Yokota AFB.

They set us on the tarmac in an area fenced off by chain-link until they could run us through customs. I had purchased a small handsewn pillow that I used to sleep with in country. It was stuffed with something like kapok or some other local material. The MP who was running us through customs saw that pillow and his eyes lit up like he was going to get promoted. He grabbed my pillow and ran over to the drug sniffing dogs and was gone for about five minutes. He came back with a disgusted look on his face and through the pillow to me: the pillow that was now soaked in dog slobber but obviously contained no drugs!

I thought that was Customs, as that is what they called it, but now I’m not sure if that was an official US Customs or just the military not wanting any drugs on the bases in Japan. But they did have an official US Customs amnesty box for anyone who wanted to surrender their contraband items without fear of prosecution. ::shrug::
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Nah, that wasn't customs. Customs is run by the country you are entering. What you went through was the Military's system to check for contraband; weapons, pornography, drugs, etc. We went through the same square dance when we hit Okinawa. They formed us up on a basketball court out behind the barracks and we stood there until past midnight while they went through our gear looking for contraband. What a pain. When we landed at MCAS El Toro, we went straight to the barracks, grabbed a rack and stowed our gear. It was 1000 on a Friday, two hours before we left Okinawa at 1200 on Friday. That International Dateline, what a hoot.
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Back on topic, they both arrived today. One late by two days and the other early by two days. I guess that balances out. It's either feast or famine. I've been looking for both of these for quite some time.
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I waited almost a week beyond the delivery date for some videos we ordered for my wife. I think everything has slowed down with the PO cutting back on distribution points. I was I the Air Force from 1970 to 1974 and was married and on seperate rations so I didn't eat in mess halls often (usually only when TDY), but some of the AF mess halls served some of the best meals I have ever had eating out. ____Dave
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.....the HQ for the army NIKE missile site I was assigned to in 1959 was at SCOTT AFB in Illinois and they DID have much better chow than the army sites!!!............. ::tu:: ...........................
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MAN I can read u guy jawing bout Nam all nite long good stuff ::tu:: When I was with my first wife we went on a cruise with the servivors of Pearl Harbor group MAN could they tell stories.
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I gotta tell you dogg, it's much more interesting now than it was then.
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Congrats on getting those two in Jerry.

Talk about searching for contraband, we had that type of search occasionally too but the searchers had to do the whole ship. The ships company lockers and everywhere else. Not really sure what earned this treatment as the ship never returned to the US as far as I know after being forward deployed to Yokosuka, at least when I rode it.

The knife everyone carried on board was a Buck 110 from the ships store, even the bosun's mates. I don't think the government wanted to issue sharp, pointy things to sailors as part of their kit. :)
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I'm sure all you old Marines remember powdered eggs, powdered milk and spam. We all had great chow on ship, but after about 3 weeks and running short before we headed to the supply ship that was out main source of food. Not to mention gains burgers ( small hamburgers in a can) instant mashed potatoes, and meat older than the crew. Also not forgetting bug juice! ftd
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I try to suppress the bad memories, Ferg. :lol:

I can tell you this and I'm fairly certain you've seen me say it several times before, the worst chow I ever had, for any extended period of time on dry land, was at the Navy chowhall on the Seabee Base Port Hueneme, CA. I was there for four months and don't remember one single decent meal.
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Usually our chow was really good. The worst meal I had was at Ft. Hayes induction center in Columbus. Army mess halls serve the same meal world wide or so I was told.Mess cooks on our ship got bilge duties if they cooked a bad meal. ftd
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Well I don't know about the meals being the same worldwide in the Army but keep in mind, the cooks and their capabilities were all different.

Case in point. The best I remember we had three cooks on Monkey Mountain (actually four but I don't recall the head cook ever showing up in the mess hall except at chow time). Again to the best of my memory they rotated two days on and one day off. Two were fairly decent and the third was awful. I pulled a month of mess duty while on the mountain and was assigned to the pot shack. Cook #3 we'll call him, made spaghetti one day and burnt it. He burnt it so bad that not only did it taste burned but it took forever to chip the burned crust out of the bottom of the pot. Yeah, he served it. Waste not, want not (plus you don't get your butt chewed)
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jerryd6818 wrote:I gotta tell you dogg, it's much more interesting now than it was then.
Amen to that!
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jerryd6818 wrote:I gotta tell you dogg, it's much more interesting now than it was then.
Amen to that!
But knowing what you know now, would you do it all over again? With the ability to make a couple of modifications, I would but I get to be 17 years old again.
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::barf:: AAAAH, all those sweet memories, our best one on bad meals was when we was in Hong Kong ,we had Marysoo side cleaners painting our ship so we decided to feed them.The duty cooks fixed fried rice and it was so bad the Chinese wouldn't eat it. ftd
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Back to the stuff that's on it's way to me OR you.

I have this fascination with the 3¼" medium jacks. I even bought a little 16 knife folder so they would all be together.
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Now I've discovered the Sabre and Monarch line and there is a 3¼" jack in their lineup. In fact more than one. I already had a Made In Japan Monarch 3¼" Jack but this past weekend I discovered a Sabre Monarch #205 3¼" Jack on eBay and bought it yesterday. It doesn't show shipped yet but it should be on it's way to me soon ( ::pray:: ). Now I just need to get a Sabre 3¼" Jack to round out the set (I think).
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I have, for some time, been looking at a Buck 303 Cadet with the intent of turning it into a two blade jack. This morning, about 0300, I finally pulled the trigger. It's the seller's picture but the seller claims it's "in the mail". It's only coming from Tennessee so it should be here by the weekend.

I bought one of these in the mid-'90s. It was on sale at Wal-Mart in DeKalb, IL when they were closing everything out in preparation for their move to the new Super Wal-Mart store just down the road. I carried it until my first road trip after 9/11 when TSA stole it from me.
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