What’s y’all’s thoughts on this Shapleigh?

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What’s y’all’s thoughts on this Shapleigh?

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Saw this on the bay, stamp looks crooked and blade looks awfully new but I know very killer about these.
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::hmm:: The blades look new and Stainless.
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Modern reproduction. Whether I would call it a counterfeit depends on how the seller describes it. If they’re passing it off as “vintage”, it’s a counterfeit. JMO

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Mumbleypeg wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 5:07 am Modern reproduction. Whether I would call it a counterfeit depends on how the seller describes it. If they’re passing it off as “vintage”, it’s a counterfeit. JMO

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It is labeled “vintage” and carbon steel. I wasn’t sure if it was a repaired blade or sanded down to remove rust but it just looked suspect to me. I’m posting a closeup of the tang stamp.
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Doesn’t look like an old Shapleigh stamp to me. Shapleigh didn’t make knives though. Most were made by Empire, Schrade, or Camillus. It just doesn’t look like an old knife. JMO

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I saw that one and agree, it just does not look right, pretty sure it is a modern reproduction or fake whatever you want to call it.
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In addition to what has been said this particular pattern, regardless of what the blades are stamped, is one that is most often seen counterfeited. Usually appearing as new knives.
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For comparison, an old Shapleigh stamp.
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Look at how the threads have been obliterated from the bolsters. That might be found on a heavy user but not on a knife in that supposed near mint condition. it's a sure sign of an incredibly poor glazing job by whoever pinned the knife. That's something you never see on a true vintage knife, at least not to that extent. Also, almost every vintage jack I've seen in that style has had a long pull on the spear blade with a cut swedge in front of it. I'd definitely pass on that one if I were looking for a true vintage Shapleigh. If you're looking for a nice looking user that you might get at a fairly reasonable price then it might be worth considering.

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That looks like the same stamp Parker put on those so called NOS cattle knives he had made in Germany and was selling from Smokey Mountain a while back.
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wlf wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:55 pm That looks like the same stamp Parker put on those so called NOS cattle knives he had made in Germany and was selling from Smokey Mountain a while back.

One of his numerous “factory warehouse finds”? ::facepalm:: ::skeptic::

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