Pretty obvious huh!!!!

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Re: Pretty obvious huh!!!!

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I live in greeneville TN and frequent this shop. I went by yesterday to tell them about the fakes and actually held these knives they were aware they were fake. they told me they could not end the bids since they had bids. I call bs but it's not my feedback
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Well, it looks like it sold for $173.60. Someone got a "great deal"! :(
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The jigging on these fakes is unique in that the jigging rows and columns are concentric. You will not find Case knives with this type of jigging that forms straight lines of perpendicular rows and columns . The overly large nail nicks are also a common denominator of these import fakes. Patterns you will find from this same fake Case ilk are the congress pen, 80 pattern whittlers, toothpicks, copperheads and canoes as well as others. You will find these fakes in both XX and Tested stamps.

Look at the examples posted here and note that the jigging patterns will form perpendicular lines if drawn between the rows and columns. Roughly glazed finishes on blades can also be a common denominator. Also note that they all look new because they are new.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concentric
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Here are some comparison pictures of blades and handles from a good Case XX 6488 and a bad Case XX 6488. The component in the top image in all of the attachments came from the same knife. Likewise, the component in the bottom image in all of the attachments came from the same knife.

Who can't determine which one is the good one and which one is the bad one?
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The last 2 posts above are a big help in spotting these fake Case knives. Thank you Wayne & 'Ralph'.
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btrwtr wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:54 pm The jigging on these fakes is unique in that the jigging rows and columns are concentric. You will not find Case knives with this type of jigging that forms straight lines of perpendicular rows and columns. . .
That's why I call it Alligator jigging, it reminds me of the pattern alligator skin has. Nice photo collection of these miscreant cobble-jobs. ::tu:: ::barf::
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Like others have said I'm very appreciative of those that take the time to post great pictures and give us in depth information on the knives discussed in this forum.
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This has been one of the most informative threads on counterfeit knives I've seen...especially for Case knives. This is information I 'tweak' into the back of my mind, so that when I'm at estate sales, auction houses, flea markets, etc., I'll be more informed to make a good decision on whether to buy a particular knife or not. Thanks to all who provided a vast array of descriptions and things to look for. ::tu::
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See this thread for more information on this type of counterfeit knife.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=64958&hilit=concentric&start=15
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Hillbilly70 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:36 pm Sorry for posting guys!! I saw it as across the room fake! I’m no expert at all I seek advise often !! I surly didn’t mean to ruin someone’s day for lack of details!
Thanks for the post, I am NOT very good at spotting the fakes, at least in photos. If I get a fake in my and I have a better chance to "feel the fakeness" of it. So thanks to you guys for putting the info out there. ::nod:: I try and follow the discussion and learn a little bit. ::hmm::
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btrwtr wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:48 am See this thread for mor information on this type of counterfeit knife.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=64958&hilit=concentric&start=15
Thanks! ::handshake:: I just checked the thread, good info! ::tu::
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There is some validity to this story Bob but you didn't get "the rest of the story". The heir apparent, to this knife company owner, decided to raise the old tested patterns from the dead and went so far as to have the Japanese stamp out several blades congruent to the old patterns. When he received the blades from the Japanese they were well done but had an obvious flaw that could be easily recognized by knife collectors. As the story goes he filed these would be tested blades in the reject pile. You that know knives are now seeing these rejects blades being placed in legit Case frames and sold on ebay and knife shows as made from old parts. LOOK CLOSELY AT THE TANG STAMP........dead give-away.
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