Old Case Knife
Old Case Knife
Just a question on this. Not implying the seller is doing anything wrong. Isn't this a Case tested blade in an XX frame? I'm going by the C on the shield. Rather obvious this blade has been put into this frame if you look at the bolster.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-Tested-XX- ... Sw03lY5WRs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-Tested-XX- ... Sw03lY5WRs
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Re: Old Case Knife
Bob,
It looks ok to me as far as the shield goes. Tested Shields have the closed C as this one has. Actually some Tested knives have the XX shield as well which is acceptable. Looks like it has been worked on for sure but I don't see anything incorrect. Looks like a 61049sab to me, should be 4 1/16" closed.
Tom
It looks ok to me as far as the shield goes. Tested Shields have the closed C as this one has. Actually some Tested knives have the XX shield as well which is acceptable. Looks like it has been worked on for sure but I don't see anything incorrect. Looks like a 61049sab to me, should be 4 1/16" closed.
Tom
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Tom thanks for the info. I was just told over the weekend that more times than not on tested green bone the C on the shield will look like the end of a football and on the XX green bone the C looks more like a regular C - is that not true? Funny how so many people have so many theories on determining the authenticity of a knife. Who knows what is right?
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looks as if it has been taken apart, but the rest looks to be CASE parts, and era accurate. The blade almost looks like it could have came from a large/medium tested toothpick.
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as far as shields,
the Closed C was in the tested era, not Uncommon to see in the XX era.
the Jagged blocked shield was used in the tested era (hard to describe without a pic) which I would say is less common in the xx era, personally don't own any nor recall seeing any, but possible I bet.
The XX era tall S shield is less-common in the Tested era (in my opinion) but not to the point where its scarce. Seems I see more circle C in the xx era than the other way around, then again, I collect lots of rough black and green bone which were earlier in the xx era, so my judgment/experience might be clouded.
the USA era shield is UNCOMMON in the XX era (I get worried when I see this). I have 50 or so XX era, 10 or so with Circle C and most with the tall S, none have the FAT S from the USA era.
**** the above is just my opinion and what I've experienced, not by any means law or anything to swear by.
the Closed C was in the tested era, not Uncommon to see in the XX era.
the Jagged blocked shield was used in the tested era (hard to describe without a pic) which I would say is less common in the xx era, personally don't own any nor recall seeing any, but possible I bet.
The XX era tall S shield is less-common in the Tested era (in my opinion) but not to the point where its scarce. Seems I see more circle C in the xx era than the other way around, then again, I collect lots of rough black and green bone which were earlier in the xx era, so my judgment/experience might be clouded.
the USA era shield is UNCOMMON in the XX era (I get worried when I see this). I have 50 or so XX era, 10 or so with Circle C and most with the tall S, none have the FAT S from the USA era.
**** the above is just my opinion and what I've experienced, not by any means law or anything to swear by.
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I'm with you on this one Zach. That blade doesn't look right for the frame. Toothpick or 11 1/2 blade maybe.XxTestedxX wrote:looks as if it has been taken apart, but the rest looks to be CASE parts, and era accurate. The blade almost looks like it could have came from a large/medium tested toothpick.
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Bob,just bob wrote:Tom thanks for the info. I was just told over the weekend that more times than not on tested green bone the C on the shield will look like the end of a football and on the XX green bone the C looks more like a regular C - is that not true? Funny how so many people have so many theories on determining the authenticity of a knife. Who knows what is right?
Here is a picture of a Tested 61048 that I own, note the similar shields. The 049 is very much like the 048. With the 049 you will find the end bolster and the saber blade that the OP knife has. By no means am I saying I like the OP knife, only that it does appear to have parts that are correct for the period. Hope this is not too confusing.
Tom
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This isn't confusing at all ??? Is part of the reason for the variety of shields due to outsourcing by Case? Other companies may have made their own Case shields or is it in house changes by Case?
Here is a folding hunter. Without seeing the blades and just going by the shield is it tested or xx ?
Here is a folding hunter. Without seeing the blades and just going by the shield is it tested or xx ?
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Re: Old Case Knife
Based on shield alone, all that can be said for this knife is that it is either Tested XX (1920-1940) or XX (1940-1964). If it were a Bomb shield, for example, that would eliminate XX (1940-1964).
Here is a good AAPK reference for Case Shields:
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/co ... x-shields/
Here is a good AAPK reference for Case Shields:
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/co ... x-shields/
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The open C appears to have the points or dog ears on the ends. I say tested.
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Re: Old Case Knife
Steve "knifaholic" has a good section on shields in his books on "Collecting Case Knives". They are a good read and very informative.
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The blade for the OP knife looks right to me - it is a different blade shape than the 048 blade and has a saber rather than flat grind.
As others have said, open C, closed C, and block letter shields are all correct for the Tested era. For some reason the open C is fairly common on the 65 and 050 patterns. If you see a Tested with a USA shield, RUN.
As others have said, open C, closed C, and block letter shields are all correct for the Tested era. For some reason the open C is fairly common on the 65 and 050 patterns. If you see a Tested with a USA shield, RUN.
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Re: Old Case Knife
My opinion is that the knife has been crudely re-pinned (the blade), but is correct otherwise.
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