I can`t believe SMKW has that on display as an official WWII German pocket knifekitt3nmitt3ns wrote:Here's the SS knife made by Utica I seen at SMKW the other day
Authentic Nazi knife signed by Adolf Hitler
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Here is a knife I purchased off eBay not long ago. It is a Utica and as you can see it has the lightning bolt shield like the SMKW knife. These knives are not super uncommon, my guess is that Utica saw the symbol before the atrocities of the Nazi regime had come to light and decided to use it as a shield on their knives. Of course, any Nazi (and more especially any SS man) would be inclined to buy such a knife and carry it even though it wasn't official SS issue. All of the ones I've seen have the curved Utica marking which Goins' date to pre 1937. I'm guessing that not long after you couldn't have paid Utica to use a shield like that.
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The Utica knife is just a "Lightning Bolt" shield, it has nothing to do with the "SS". I have a cattle knife like that.
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On the display I seen at SMKW everything was in German so I couldn't read any of it. Like you said msteele I'm sure some SS soldier got it because of that symbol after all of that stuff.
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A old friend of mine brought this exact knife to me just the other day. He said it was given to him by his father and was a SS "dress knife". I just admired it, oiled the joints and handed it back. Didn't have the heart.msteele6 wrote:Here ius an authentic Nazi whittler signed by der Fuehrer himself - hurry up to get your bids in, the price is only up to $101.
My guess is that Hitler signed these knives in the waning days of the Third Reich, probably in his bunker, as a means to raise money for his failing ambitions of global domination.
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I've seen several (and owned a couple) of the Uticas with the "Lightning Bolt" shield. They have all had the Utica arched tang stamp which I believe is supposed to date it to 1937 or prior. I'm not a student of the Nazis, so just when did the SS start using the lightning bolt for a logo? I'm thinking it was 1937 when Brit PM Chamberlain gave into Hitler with his policy of "appeasement" but how strong was the SS at that time? All in all, I'm betting that Utica had nothing to do with the SS and any similarity at all is purely coincidental.
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Apparently Seneca also used the Lightning Bolt shield as well as Utica. Here's one on Ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Antiqu ... 3a896f4f32
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Antiqu ... 3a896f4f32
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Here are the missing "narzi" knife pics of that Utica stockman I had. I was contacted by a gent that wanted to buy it as he was sure I was wrong about it.
I sold it to him and figure he'll be happy with his "Narzi" knife.
I sold it to him and figure he'll be happy with his "Narzi" knife.
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Wasn't the "SS" insignia TWO lightning bolts next to each other...not just one? Frankly, it would never occur to me that this zig-zag had anything to with the the SS or Nazis.
But,...what do I know.
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Dull, you are correct.
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I have one, and actually going to give it to a friend.
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The question of when the SS were formed was asked in this thread so I looked it up.
"Nazi Germany – SchutzStaffel SS. The SchutzStaffel or SS was formed in April 1925 as a section of the SA and functioned as a personal bodyguard for the NSDAP leader, Adolf Hitler. The SS was considered to be an elite force and membership was restricted to those who were pure Aryan Germans."
https://www.historyonthenet.com/nazi-ge ... taffel-ss/
They (the SS) were formed Before Utica used the shield.
Utica used one "bolt" so I doubt there was any correlation between the two. I lean towards soldiers liking the shield more so than any type of targeting by Utica. Who knows...
"Nazi Germany – SchutzStaffel SS. The SchutzStaffel or SS was formed in April 1925 as a section of the SA and functioned as a personal bodyguard for the NSDAP leader, Adolf Hitler. The SS was considered to be an elite force and membership was restricted to those who were pure Aryan Germans."
https://www.historyonthenet.com/nazi-ge ... taffel-ss/
They (the SS) were formed Before Utica used the shield.
Utica used one "bolt" so I doubt there was any correlation between the two. I lean towards soldiers liking the shield more so than any type of targeting by Utica. Who knows...
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Had one just like that my Dad got somehow that was fake. Hit it with 12 gauge 00 at 4 feet.Sixpak74 wrote:I have one, and actually going to give it to a friend.
Pretty that one is not authentic either. It was identical.
Maybe other will have an opinion as to authenticity
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Those aren't old at all.I think they were made in the 1980's.zp4ja wrote:Had one just like that my Dad got somehow that was fake. Hit it with 12 gauge 00 at 4 feet.Sixpak74 wrote:I have one, and actually going to give it to a friend.
Pretty that one is not authentic either. It was identical.
Maybe other will have an opinion as to authenticity
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That is what I thought Roger.
Some sick tourist trinket, in my opinion.
Some sick tourist trinket, in my opinion.
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Look at any example of Hitler's signature... There is your answer.
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there was a guy had one of these for sale for 11,000 dollars a while back on ebay-i told him I could buy them for under 4 dollars-and where to find them to look for his self-he told me his was real even though it looked new--sent him another message to take it to his local pawn shop and try to get 10 dollars ...
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I was offered a Hilary Clinton knife, autographed. It was only used once......to stab voters in the back. ftd
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I had a guy at the flea market try to sell me one.Someone had drilled a hole in the swastikas and filled it with some white composition material . The man said it was officially De-Nazified and were the rarest.I tried to explain what they were but he wasn't convinced,he still wanted $250.I wish I had dollar for everyone I have seen.
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I have one of the 'Nazi' knives like the O.P. knife back on page 1. I also have a "KKK" marked knife. I doubt i could even give them away.
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I recall seeing dozens of boxes of KKK knives on Jim Parker's table at a knife show. They were all barlow pattern knives. Pretty sure they were made by Kaufmann or some other German maker, whose name started with a "K".
I recall black handles, but some might have been white. It was a long time ago.
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I recall black handles, but some might have been white. It was a long time ago.
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today there was a real knife on e-bay will have to look see what it sold for--A LORENA BOBBIT WEENY WHACKER KNIFE-in scary looking original box...
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Yes, German made black handle KKK knife.
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