Who's into S & M?

Schatt & Morgan knives were first manufacturer back in 1890. The Queen Cutlery company made most of the more recent examples, but Schatt had its own plant in its earlier years that cranked out the oldies. There is no shortage of fantastic Schatt & Morgan knives in existance that have been made over the brand's long & storied history.
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Ivoryman wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:35 am A Mini Trapper and a Whittler
Ooooh ya mate! Monkey mind likes those un's.
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That red whittler is gorgeous, gorgeous!
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Thanks Mark and Willie, appreciate it.
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S&M #01 ACSB Swaybelly Wharncliffe Jack
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That's a keeper Q. Beautiful handles.
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Fantastic looking knife Q ! , you've had some great finds lately ::tu::
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Q, that is a drop dead gorgeous knife. Sweet!
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Beauty Q, that one calls to my eye. Congrats.
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Mahalo to all for the kind words...although, I must confess that realize I made a mistake posting that QUEEN #01 ACSB knife in this SCHATT & MORGAN thread... ::doh:: oopsie-daisy :oops: my bad... ::dang:: . (At least S&M is made by Queen...so, maybe I can be forgiven for the error. ::undecided:: )

Allow me to atone for my egregious transgression with this genuine 2013 S&M 031208 File & Wire Series 1-1 Stag Spear Point "Pint" Folder :D
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Q you make your apologies so sweet with pictures like that. Wonderful stag. ::nod::
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Fabulous knife, great stag and love that spear. Two beauties there Q. Mmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn.
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I’ve had this one for a few weeks now. After Covid my energy level is up and down and just didn’t get around to taking pictures until now. Finally got a Premier Scout knife. I might end up selling it. The short can opening blade is very hard to open. It has a lot of tension on it so the pull is hard, plus the nail nick is very short so it’s hard to get my steel thumbnail in there. One of those blades that slaps back down every time you try to pull it up. Took me 12 attempts to open it for these pictures. Other than that I love this knife. It is shorter than I thought and made for lighter work than most camp knives. But it is one well built knife.
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Sharpnshinyknives wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:53 am I’ve had this one for a few weeks now....I love this knife.
Great looking bone on that one, Mark. If I collected Scout pattern knives I would buy it in a heartbeat. Put that same bone on a Mini Trapper and The Monkey would be all over it (by which I mean I would have to pay whatever it took to own it). ::nod::
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OK folks...Here's a riddle for you: Is this a Queen (see shield) or a Schatt & Morgan (see tang stamp)?

Makes no difference to me either way; I bought it for the Stag and the Wharncliffe blade. ::nod::

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Factory error Quint! Too kool!
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My guess is that this particular knife was put together close to the end of things. I've never seen a S&M knife or a Queen, for that matter, with the lanyard hole that close to the edge. Why the queen shield is anyone's guess..... Perhaps that's what they had left or it fit in the stag better?
But it sure is beautiful stag and I love the Warncliffe!


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knowtracks wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:47 pm My guess is that this particular knife was put together close to the end of things. I've never seen a S&M knife or a Queen, for that matter, with the lanyard hole that close to the edge. Why the queen shield is anyone's guess..... Perhaps that's what they had left or it fit in the stag better?
But it sure is beautiful stag and I love the Warncliffe!


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That was my thought, too, Dave...cobbled together at the factory in a desperate mad scramble to use up stock before the final fire sale. And that lanyard hole really threw me for a loop, as well; very unusual placement... ::hmm:: ...looks like a last-minute rush job IMO...maybe it's not even factory done?? ::shrug:: The blade also seems a bit short for the frame, as if it was not specifically intended to go on this pattern (I have no idea what the pattern number is for this knife...it's similar to a Swaybelly/Swayback pattern #01...but not exactly the same.) Steel liners & pins.

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Just an unusual birth mark that doesn't distract at all. Love those handles. ::tu::
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Didn't notice it before you posted these new pics Q but they put the lanyard hole thru the bed as opposed to the backspring like every other lanyard hole I've ever seen!
Probably is a good thing the blade seems a little short!



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This S&M File & Wire Series #05 Kentucky Shiner is the biggest folder in my collection.
I'm so used to handling knives in the 3½" - 4" range that at 5 5/16" closed, 9 7/16" OAL, this monster feels almost like a short sword!
Not sure what type of wood the handle is but I really like the grain & color. ::nod::
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Q, At a guess, that beautiful wood might be rosewood. My first thought was actually mahogany which seems a remote possibility. I don't know if that wood has ever been used on a knife. If you ever find the answer, kindly share it.
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Big and beautiful Q. ::nod::
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Quick Steel wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am Q, At a guess, that beautiful wood might be rosewood.
I do believe you are probably correct, Garry. I've never been too good at identifying different types of wood (well...other than Ebony, perhaps), but I laid this Kentucky Shiner next to several other wood handled knives I own (that I know what the wood is) and it's closer to Rosewood than any of the other woods S&M commonly used for knife handles such as Walnut, Cocobolo, Zebra Wood.


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Q, I looked up wood samples on google and rosewood came closest. In any event, I think that is a superlative looking knife. A statement I originally made a few years ago and still hold to is that "When S&M gets it right, they get it really right."
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Been behind posting knives for my personal collection. Got this Railsplitter in a couple of weeks ago. Some of the nicest Winterbottom bone I’ve ever seen on a S&M, just had to have it.
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