Northwoods Hawthorne Jack
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Pair of Hawthornes dressed in jeans
I’m a long time collector in search of rare and limited GEC AND Northwoods knives. Always looking to add ivory pieces to my collection. PM to discuss sales or trades, please!
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Giraffe Bone Wharncliffe Hawthorne Jack
We are all just prisoners here of our own device.
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
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Q, i think you have a few Hawthorne Jacks ? Is this Giraffe bone one a new addition ? It certainly is a most attractive knife.
I have been looking for a Hawthorne but have not been able to find any. Did it come from ebay ?
The one i would really like is the first release, a barehead, and with a clip blade.
kj
I have been looking for a Hawthorne but have not been able to find any. Did it come from ebay ?
The one i would really like is the first release, a barehead, and with a clip blade.
kj
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Beautiful one, Q!!!
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Thanks KJ & Doc B.
The Hawthorne Jack is my favorite Northwoods pattern. I used to have several (blue camel bone, mammoth ivory & elephant ivory) as well as a bunch of other Northwoods patterns but the climate here in HI was not at all kind to the Northwoods steel (no aloha for Northwoods, apparently) and trying to keep them all from spotting and rusting was practically a full-time job. Eventually, the near-constant maintenance was causing me so much worry and distress that I decided to sell them all (do you still have the elephant ivory Hawthorne you got from me, Roland?) and try to be content with just looking at the pictures I had of them in my computer photo archives. Unfortunately, I recently had a catastrophic hard drive meltdown and lost a bunch of photo files, so even that little joy was now lost to me.
When I saw this one for sale I immediately fell in love with it and decided that I absolutely had to have at least one Northwoods Hawthorne Jack in my collection at any cost. It was brand new and in pristine, mint condition when I bought it; but, one day after it arrived I noticed a small spot had already appeared toward the tip on the mark side of the blade and I just about had a panic attack (if you look closely, you can see the spot in my photos).
I realized that the only way to protect this baby from Hawaii's Northwoods-averse climate was to give it the "Tutankhamun" treatment. So, after taking these photos I slathered the knife from head to toe, inside and out with a heavy coating of Renaissance Wax then put it inside an individual Sac-Ups pouch and then sealed that inside a Ziploc freezer baggie with three fresh silica desiccant packets then put it inside a locking aluminum case with an airtight rubber gasket seal.
I really don't think I'll be taking this knife out of its sarcophagus very often...maybe only once or twice a year just to check on it, apply fresh wax and replace the desiccant packets. I've already made multiple backups of the photos. I'm taking no chances this time!
The Hawthorne Jack is my favorite Northwoods pattern. I used to have several (blue camel bone, mammoth ivory & elephant ivory) as well as a bunch of other Northwoods patterns but the climate here in HI was not at all kind to the Northwoods steel (no aloha for Northwoods, apparently) and trying to keep them all from spotting and rusting was practically a full-time job. Eventually, the near-constant maintenance was causing me so much worry and distress that I decided to sell them all (do you still have the elephant ivory Hawthorne you got from me, Roland?) and try to be content with just looking at the pictures I had of them in my computer photo archives. Unfortunately, I recently had a catastrophic hard drive meltdown and lost a bunch of photo files, so even that little joy was now lost to me.
When I saw this one for sale I immediately fell in love with it and decided that I absolutely had to have at least one Northwoods Hawthorne Jack in my collection at any cost. It was brand new and in pristine, mint condition when I bought it; but, one day after it arrived I noticed a small spot had already appeared toward the tip on the mark side of the blade and I just about had a panic attack (if you look closely, you can see the spot in my photos).
I realized that the only way to protect this baby from Hawaii's Northwoods-averse climate was to give it the "Tutankhamun" treatment. So, after taking these photos I slathered the knife from head to toe, inside and out with a heavy coating of Renaissance Wax then put it inside an individual Sac-Ups pouch and then sealed that inside a Ziploc freezer baggie with three fresh silica desiccant packets then put it inside a locking aluminum case with an airtight rubber gasket seal.
I really don't think I'll be taking this knife out of its sarcophagus very often...maybe only once or twice a year just to check on it, apply fresh wax and replace the desiccant packets. I've already made multiple backups of the photos. I'm taking no chances this time!
We are all just prisoners here of our own device.
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
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QTCut5 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:59 am Thanks KJ & Doc B.
The Hawthorne Jack is my favorite Northwoods pattern. I used to have several (blue camel bone, mammoth ivory & elephant ivory) as well as a bunch of other Northwoods patterns but the climate here in HI was not at all kind to the Northwoods steel (no aloha for Northwoods, apparently) and trying to keep them all from spotting and rusting was practically a full-time job. Eventually, the near-constant maintenance was causing me so much worry and distress that I decided to sell them all (do you still have the elephant ivory Hawthorne you got from me, Roland?) and try to be content with just looking at the pictures I had of them in my computer photo archives. Unfortunately, I recently had a catastrophic hard drive meltdown and lost a bunch of photo files, so even that little joy was now lost to me.
When I saw this one for sale I immediately fell in love with it and decided that I absolutely had to have at least one Northwoods Hawthorne Jack in my collection at any cost. It was brand new and in pristine, mint condition when I bought it; but, one day after it arrived I noticed a small spot had already appeared toward the tip on the mark side of the blade and I just about had a panic attack (if you look closely, you can see the spot in my photos).
I realized that the only way to protect this baby from Hawaii's Northwoods-averse climate was to give it the "Tutankhamun" treatment. So, after taking these photos I slathered the knife from head to toe, inside and out with a heavy coating of Renaissance Wax then put it inside an individual Sac-Ups pouch and then sealed that inside a Ziploc freezer baggie with three fresh silica desiccant packets then put it inside a locking aluminum case with an airtight rubber gasket seal.
I really don't think I'll be taking this knife out of its sarcophagus very often...maybe only once or twice a year just to check on it, apply fresh wax and replace the desiccant packets. I've already made multiple backups of the photos. I'm taking no chances this time!
Sorry to hear you had to sell off all your beauties (especially that blue Camel and the Mammoth) in your favorite pattern for the anxiety it causes, and a spot in one day is rather disturbing. If it's any consolation, as I'm sure you already noticed, that rustic heat treat scale at the top around the Northwoods stamp has been removed already and it looks to me from your pictures that the primary grind lines have been buffed/ground/polished or whatever too. Didn't come from KSF that way. So whoever had it before you might have had the same problem with spotting. The upside is a spot that small, as the one you have now, can be polished out and have the blade look like it looked when you bought it. Given your climate and sea spray full of salt droplets and your stated history with GEC 1095, might have to invest in a cheap bench grinder or a Dremel with some polishing wheels with light abrasive to polish tiny spots like that right out. It's not original finish anyway, that's for sure, so putting it to the wheel will not hurt anything that hasn't been altered already, and with the right wheel you can fix it. Just a suggestion since it's a problem. If you're only taking it out semi-annually, maybe a thick grease for the blade would work. Bearing grease or something thick wiped on thin. Best of luck with it though. That's a fine one and if you ever find maintenance is too much hassle send it this way and we'll take the hassle out of if for you.
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Q, i no longer have the ivory Hawthorne. I have had 'financial problems' for some time now and unfortunately had to sell many of my best knives.
Ivoryman what is it that you see in Q's pictures that tells you the blade finish is not original ?
I use an AGR product called "Rust Free". It is a clear viscous oil product that can be spread very thinly on a steel surface and creates a barrier between steel and the air. I think it would do it's job even in warm seaside places.
kj
Ivoryman what is it that you see in Q's pictures that tells you the blade finish is not original ?
I use an AGR product called "Rust Free". It is a clear viscous oil product that can be spread very thinly on a steel surface and creates a barrier between steel and the air. I think it would do it's job even in warm seaside places.
kj
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Thanks for the suggestions, gentlemen.
I realize that the issue of protecting knife steels in storage has been discussed at length in other threads, but I'll briefly share my experience here anyway.
I have had spotting/rust issues with a handful of different knives particularly Northwoods (all), most GEC 1095 and some (not all) DFC era Schatt & Morgan steel. I've tried many different oils, ointments, grease & wax including Balistol, Tuf Glide, Rust Free, WD-40, Vaseline, Flitz Wax, Ren Wax, etc., (too many to remember) with varying degrees of success. Truth is, most of the products protect the steel just fine, the difference, and my main concern, is how long the product lasts, i.e., how frequently it needs to be refreshed; some are better than others for long-term storage. I have found that AGR Rust Free, for example, dries out faster compared to some of the other oil treatments and tends to leave a gooey yellow residue that is difficult to clean out of the joints and tiny crevices. Other concerns include how "messy" they are in terms of leeching out onto whatever is in direct contact with the knife, and then there's the odor, which may seem like a relatively minor or "picky" issue but if the smell of a product makes me gag every time I take out a knife, that's a problem.
Simply stated, I prefer a product that is easy to apply, lasts a long time, isn't messy and doesn't have a strong, unpleasant odor.
While it may not be the most practical solution, I did find a way to have an ivory "Hawthorne" that stores well and doesn't require a lot of maintenance (although it's not a Northwoods Hawthorne): I had one custom made with steel that is better suited to the climate conditions where I live.
This K'roo Warthog Ivory Hawthorne Jack was made for me by Willem O'Kelly with N690Co Bohler Uddeholm blade steel and 304 stainless for the bolster and liners.
I realize that the issue of protecting knife steels in storage has been discussed at length in other threads, but I'll briefly share my experience here anyway.
I have had spotting/rust issues with a handful of different knives particularly Northwoods (all), most GEC 1095 and some (not all) DFC era Schatt & Morgan steel. I've tried many different oils, ointments, grease & wax including Balistol, Tuf Glide, Rust Free, WD-40, Vaseline, Flitz Wax, Ren Wax, etc., (too many to remember) with varying degrees of success. Truth is, most of the products protect the steel just fine, the difference, and my main concern, is how long the product lasts, i.e., how frequently it needs to be refreshed; some are better than others for long-term storage. I have found that AGR Rust Free, for example, dries out faster compared to some of the other oil treatments and tends to leave a gooey yellow residue that is difficult to clean out of the joints and tiny crevices. Other concerns include how "messy" they are in terms of leeching out onto whatever is in direct contact with the knife, and then there's the odor, which may seem like a relatively minor or "picky" issue but if the smell of a product makes me gag every time I take out a knife, that's a problem.
Simply stated, I prefer a product that is easy to apply, lasts a long time, isn't messy and doesn't have a strong, unpleasant odor.
While it may not be the most practical solution, I did find a way to have an ivory "Hawthorne" that stores well and doesn't require a lot of maintenance (although it's not a Northwoods Hawthorne): I had one custom made with steel that is better suited to the climate conditions where I live.
This K'roo Warthog Ivory Hawthorne Jack was made for me by Willem O'Kelly with N690Co Bohler Uddeholm blade steel and 304 stainless for the bolster and liners.
We are all just prisoners here of our own device.
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
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Well Northwoods has nothing on that Kroo for looks, that's for sure. Beauuuuuuutiiiiiiiiiifuuuuuuuuul.
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Bare End Hawthorne Jack
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My latest Hawthorne in mammoth.
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Found this Giraffe Bone beauty on eBay but I didn't have the $550.00 the seller was asking for it. It didn't last more than a few hours before someone snapped it up, though, which did not surprise me one bit. It's so gorgeous I decided it really should be posted here for posterity (as well as for us to drool over).
We are all just prisoners here of our own device.
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
In the master's chamber they gather for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
(Eagles: Hotel California)
~Q~
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Nice you put that one up Q, that is drop dead gorgeous bone. @#$%^&*!!!! fabulous knife. Wow is all I can say. Stunning.QTCut5 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:55 am Found this Giraffe Bone beauty on eBay but I didn't have the $550.00 the seller was asking for it. It didn't last more than a few hours before someone snapped it up, though, which did not surprise me one bit. It's so gorgeous I decided it really should be posted here for posterity (as well as for us to drool over).
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I am indeed drooling. Need a towel.
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You have a super collection JoKr.
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Wow is that an impressive line up. Wow. Congrats on scoring the coup of all coups with that bunch. Wow.
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thnx
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