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by zzyzzogeton
Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:57 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: A Few of My Western's
Replies: 33
Views: 13040

Re: A Few of My Western's

Since the knife/fork set has the full bifurcated tang patent number, they are post-1932. (1931 and first 1/2 or 2/3 of 1932 would have PAT APP'l'D FOR and the rest of 1932 would have PAT. PEND.) The bucking cowboy says pre-WW2. It was not used during or after the war to my knowledge. The set does no...
by zzyzzogeton
Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:48 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Western Bird and Trouts - A 28/48 Patterns Timeline
Replies: 16
Views: 4633

Re: Western Bird and Trouts - A 28/48 Patterns Timeline

This set has a conundrum. The knives have the model numbers stamped into the guard. It's generally accepted that Western didn't start doing that until 1967, although a couple of anecdotal statements claim that they were gifted guard stamped L39s through S&H Stamp redemptions in the late 1950s. I...
by zzyzzogeton
Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:48 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Western Tang Stamps
Replies: 63
Views: 56667

Re: Western Tang Stamps

Rockingkj wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:25 pm Western Puuko with RANGER mark. It’s said the Puuko was only made in 1941 if so that would establish a date for RANGER mark. D68FE46F-7855-4776-BA09-F41F602877E4.jpeg740C4331-38AB-40DF-9277-C82A8EB18E61.jpeg
That's an excellent find, along with a new date for the Ranger line.
by zzyzzogeton
Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:14 pm
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: What do I have here?
Replies: 5
Views: 627

Re: What do I have here?

Just seeing this thread. Somehow I missed a few back in November. I have no explanation for the lack of ricasso stamps on these knives. They are Westerns and at the time they were made, different model numbers applied than Pxxx. The 48A is a 48BGG and the 48C is a 48CAP. Here's the bad news - it's a...
by zzyzzogeton
Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:01 pm
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: newbie wants help identifying knife
Replies: 8
Views: 466

Re: newbie wants help identifying knife

Somehow, I missed this one. Sorry about that. Yes this is a post-WW2 46-5. Technically, it is a G46-5, since Western didn't change the model number to L46-5 until 1955, when they started putting model numbers on the pile side ricasso. Since it has a reference to the bifurcated tang patent and MADE I...
by zzyzzogeton
Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:12 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Later Western Model Questions
Replies: 15
Views: 441

Re: Later Western Model Questions

Just got word back from my Western employee friend. He said that the 900xxx serial numbers would most likely have been for a limited edition or a private run.
by zzyzzogeton
Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:41 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Later Western Model Questions
Replies: 15
Views: 441

Re: Later Western Model Questions

The Westmark stamp looks right. Looking at your knife, a bell rang in the back of my brain. I forgot that in 1984, Coleman-Western made special stag handled 701s to commemorate taking over Western. Those were sold in a wood/glass display case. The knives had black and gold spacers, special engraving...
by zzyzzogeton
Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:37 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Later Western Model Questions
Replies: 15
Views: 441

Re: Later Western Model Questions

From basic knowledge, the Westmark 703 with a stag handle and a 90xxxx serial number was not made during the Western/Coleman-Western eras. No stag handled 70X knives were made for official sale. IF, and it is a big IF, the knife was made in BouIder or Longmont, it would have been a really, really, r...
by zzyzzogeton
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:58 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Later Western Model Questions
Replies: 15
Views: 441

Re: Later Western Model Questions

The L71 is a Camillus product. Other than being a newer knife and no year code date, on Camillus knives, the second line reads "U.S.A. Model No." Western and Coleman Western knives read "Model No. U.S.A." The L88 is a 1973-1976 knife. Reference to BOULDER, COLO. was dropped after...
by zzyzzogeton
Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:56 pm
Forum: General Off Topic Discussion
Topic: Seiko Electra watch
Replies: 7
Views: 498

Re: Seiko Electra watch

Can't help you personally, but... If you don't get your answer here, you might try giving Bob Swanson at The Emporium Antiques store in Pine Mountain GA a call. 706-663-7721 Bob collects watches and posts up his "watch of the day" on his personal FB page. He has a large eclectic collection...
by zzyzzogeton
Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:30 pm
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: model number
Replies: 6
Views: 545

Re: model number

657 from 1955 onward. Prior to 1955, the pattern was 74 and the model was 6374P if it had bone scales or 2374P if it had composition plastic (celluloid) scales. The P indicated that the third blade was a punch.
by zzyzzogeton
Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:55 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Timeframe on this Western Bowie
Replies: 2
Views: 277

Re: Timeframe on this Western Bowie

Last 1/3 of 1967 to 1968
by zzyzzogeton
Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:27 am
Forum: General Off Topic Discussion
Topic: Garage sale find
Replies: 5
Views: 444

Re: Garage sale find

Graham Brown Shoe Company was founded by Guy Graham in 1911 in Dallas, TX. Went out of business in 1994.

The company also had a line of boots "signed" by Tom Mix, an old-school silent movie cowboy. This line was probably made during the late 1910s and 1920s, the height of his career.
by zzyzzogeton
Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:07 am
Forum: Switchblade Knife Collector`s Forum
Topic: PIC ? Japan
Replies: 9
Views: 360

Re: PIC ? Japan

PIC got started in 1954 and imported sporting goods until the late 1980s or early 1990s - exact date is unknown when they got out of the sporting goods game, shifting to other lines of business.
by zzyzzogeton
Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:40 pm
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Western Tang Stamps
Replies: 63
Views: 56667

Re: Western Tang Stamps

Thomasg wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:09 am 1931-33. WEST -CUT.
Actually, a little tighter than that - 1931 - 1932.

1932 - 1933 would have been "PAT. PEND." on the pile side ricasso.

Then just "PATENTED" for a bit in 1933, before the actual patent number was issued and stamps made with the patent number.
by zzyzzogeton
Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:04 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: Western Tang Stamps
Replies: 63
Views: 56667

Re: Western Tang Stamps

1968 to 1972 for sure.

Guard stamped model numbers began in 1967 for some models (W49 for sure) and by 1968 for all, for sure.

Reference to BOULDER, COLO. in the stamp ended in 1972.
by zzyzzogeton
Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:15 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: ? No. L58 ? Fixed blade
Replies: 3
Views: 305

Re: ? No. L58 ? Fixed blade

Yes, Western was putting brown swirl bakelite on pommels before WW2.
by zzyzzogeton
Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:40 pm
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Replies: 8
Views: 367

Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?

The Western puukos were only made in 1941. The model number for your knife would have been 68BG. Black is not listed in TKMWWW as one of the handle options, but Western had already been making black bakelite handled knives for nearly 10 years by this time. I believe these have bakelite handles, not ...
by zzyzzogeton
Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:40 pm
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: The latest "prototype" Western
Replies: 7
Views: 1178

Re: The latest "prototype" Western

Rehandled W36, made between 1973 and 1976. All stamps on guard with no reference to BOULDER COLO make it from this short era. As you can see, all my old pics have disappeared. For some reason, my picture gallery seems to have gone on permanent vacation with no forwarding address. I can't find it, se...
by zzyzzogeton
Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:32 pm
Forum: KA-BAR Knife Collector's Forum
Topic: Help requested with identifying a Ka-Bar
Replies: 4
Views: 397

Re: Help requested with identifying a Ka-Bar

Gene, The "Little Finn" is the current marketing name for the smallest "classic hunter" B&T Kabar makes - i.e., the 1226 - 3-5/8" blade, about 1/2" wide. Similar to the Western L48-B. The Kabar 1232 (aka Finger Grip Hunter) is to the Western L48A as the 1226 is to t...
by zzyzzogeton
Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:22 am
Forum: Western Cutlery Collector's Forum
Topic: 1959-1960 677 fixed blade ?
Replies: 2
Views: 305

Re: 1959-1960 677 fixed blade ?

I would say that's a big NO. In 40+ years of collecting and studying Westerns, I have never seen any advertising or writings or other documentation mentioning the presence of the holes or a reason for them. The best reason I can come up with is that some marketing genius decided it would help sell t...
by zzyzzogeton
Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:14 am
Forum: General Off Topic Discussion
Topic: Happy Birthday zzyzzogeton !
Replies: 16
Views: 593

Re: Happy Birthday zzyzzogeton !

Thank you, to everyone who posted.

I was unable to get online yesterday due to computer issues, which have since been fixed.
by zzyzzogeton
Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:20 am
Forum: Military Related Knives And Tools
Topic: Pal Navy knife
Replies: 9
Views: 602

Re: Pal Navy knife

Thanks Z! Thanks for the detailed explanation. First hand knowledge is so valuable to a collector. It explains why belt knives are never seen in pictures of sailors. It is easier to find them with bayonets on their belts, but only if they are holding a rifle. Most of these pictures are either train...
by zzyzzogeton
Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:18 am
Forum: Military Related Knives And Tools
Topic: Pal Navy knife
Replies: 9
Views: 602

Re: Pal Navy knife

Types of boat crews vary by ship type. Your generic warships, i.e., destroyers, frigates, cruisers have 2 types of boats - a Captain's gig and a motor whaleboat (MWB), although a flag capable cruiser may have an Admiral's Barge as well. The captain's gig is usually a 26 ft personnel boat, enclosed. ...
by zzyzzogeton
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:42 pm
Forum: Military Related Knives And Tools
Topic: Pal Navy knife
Replies: 9
Views: 602

Re: Pal Navy knife

I believe some deck knives were issued with leather sheaths, but that one definitely is not an original. The fiberglass ones were much more common. Most of the leather sheaths I have seen for these knives were left handed and of a very different construction than that one. All were brown they had v...

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