Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
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Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
I have a whittler that I think is German but was wondering if anyone else was familiar with the maker. I have LG 1 and 2 and dont see the name there.
Its about 3 5/8" long, bone scales and 3 blades on 2 back springs. Its very slim and unusually long for this sort of knife in my experience. The main spear has only the mark shown. Its a very nice knife, in excellent condition with only some light sharpening marks on the main blade and some spots here and there. Snaps like a gator all around.
I have seen reference to a pruning knife marked "Pavo Real/ Germany", text only, no logo. The name was also used by a early 20th Century American maker of heavy duty agricultural knives, shovels and such, but I'm doubting they made pocket knives.
I know Pavo Real is Spanish for peacock, but I don't think this knife is from any Spanish language maker.
Thanks in advance,
wow
Its about 3 5/8" long, bone scales and 3 blades on 2 back springs. Its very slim and unusually long for this sort of knife in my experience. The main spear has only the mark shown. Its a very nice knife, in excellent condition with only some light sharpening marks on the main blade and some spots here and there. Snaps like a gator all around.
I have seen reference to a pruning knife marked "Pavo Real/ Germany", text only, no logo. The name was also used by a early 20th Century American maker of heavy duty agricultural knives, shovels and such, but I'm doubting they made pocket knives.
I know Pavo Real is Spanish for peacock, but I don't think this knife is from any Spanish language maker.
Thanks in advance,
wow
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Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
I have never heard of Pavo Real brand knives.
That being said, i do own a Klaas whittler very similar to your knife.
Mine is the same length and the jigging looks very close.
The Klaas has a coping blade as one of the secondaries though.
That being said, i do own a Klaas whittler very similar to your knife.
Mine is the same length and the jigging looks very close.
The Klaas has a coping blade as one of the secondaries though.
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Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
Hey, thanks. Boy they do look similar, we may be onto something.
Cranes, peacocks, who knows. Maybe it was a secondary brand for Klaas.
Cranes, peacocks, who knows. Maybe it was a secondary brand for Klaas.
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Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
I agree Roger.
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Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
wow, never heard of this maker, but I like it!!!!...a lot!!!.................. .....................wornoutwrench wrote:I have a whittler that I think is German but was wondering if anyone else was familiar with the maker. I have LG 1 and 2 and dont see the name there.
Its about 3 5/8" long, bone scales and 3 blades on 2 back springs. Its very slim and unusually long for this sort of knife in my experience. The main spear has only the mark shown. Its a very nice knife, in excellent condition with only some light sharpening marks on the main blade and some spots here and there. Snaps like a gator all around.
I have seen reference to a pruning knife marked "Pavo Real/ Germany", text only, no logo. The name was also used by a early 20th Century American maker of heavy duty agricultural knives, shovels and such, but I'm doubting they made pocket knives.
I know Pavo Real is Spanish for peacock, but I don't think this knife is from any Spanish language maker.
Thanks in advance,
wow
Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
I picked up a Northfield (GEC) a few years back that looks a lot like the knives shown here. I don't know where the original came from, but it looks like GEC got some inspiratioin from one of those knives.
Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
Here is a possibility:
"Pavo" was a registered trade mark of the "H. C. Kurz" company of Nurnberg Germany, which was established in 1882. H. C. Kurz was primarily a pencil manufacturer but was also involved with cutlery at some point and most likely as a retailer only. Kurz was first represented in America by the New York based firm of "Julius C. Schmidt" in 1895. At the same time, Schmidt had also secured the rights to represent another large (unknown) knife and cutlery company which may have been a link to H. C. Kurz. This knife appears to be a mid 20th century model and was probably a contract knife from a company like Klaas as seen in the example that basser5 had shown.
"Pavo" was a registered trade mark of the "H. C. Kurz" company of Nurnberg Germany, which was established in 1882. H. C. Kurz was primarily a pencil manufacturer but was also involved with cutlery at some point and most likely as a retailer only. Kurz was first represented in America by the New York based firm of "Julius C. Schmidt" in 1895. At the same time, Schmidt had also secured the rights to represent another large (unknown) knife and cutlery company which may have been a link to H. C. Kurz. This knife appears to be a mid 20th century model and was probably a contract knife from a company like Klaas as seen in the example that basser5 had shown.
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Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
Great info Mason, thanks.
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Re: Tang stamp "Pavo Real" whittler
Here is another one to muddy up the waters. An H. S. & B. All I can say about it is that it doesn't appear to be one of the usual suspects for H. S. & B. stamped knives, NYK or Camillus, maybe it is a German made knife.