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Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:39 am
by TheDullOne
Hello to all,
I have been a casual collector of knives for a few years now and recently came accross an unusual knife. Before I wasn't all that interested in origin or history, mainly looks. (I know so vain...)
I found this knife in Afghanistan and am intrigued by the markings so I have spent the last two days on the net, trying to sharpen my knowledge. I know it is by no means in great condition and I wonder if it is something that may have some history or the artful creation of a local knife maker.
Thoughts anyone?
Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:53 pm
by trail
M. Masud & Bros, import/export, Chittagong, Bangladesh. Still in operation. My guess is they were the importer of this knife, made who knows where or when. Seems like Schrade made some of these wire frame knives at one time, but I would think a Bangladeshi firm would be more likely to have ties to the Sheffield manufacturers. Just speculation on my part. That No. 6 over England looks familiar. Didn't we see something about that on a recent post?
Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:54 pm
by smiling-knife
The NO 6 England and + X marks are often seen on Asian made knives. The marks are loosely based on those of Joseph Rodgers Sheffield. s-k

Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:27 pm
by gino
never does it not amaze me that you can put a pic of any knife up and someone knows exactly what it is!
I love this place
Thanks guys
Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:50 pm
by knife7knut
I'm not certain who actually patented this idea but I know it goes back many years.I have a bunch of inexpensive advertising knives that utilize this type of construction.Some are marked,"Executive Knife Co" or,"Ambassador" and some are unmarked.
There was a custom knife maker some years ago named Ted M.Dowell who made a knife like this and called it a,"funny folder" and the name has kind of stuck.
The No.6 marking with what looks like 2 crosses is an aberration of the Joseph Rodgers trademark and was popularly used on knives made in India in the 1950's;usually characterized by brass bolsters and cow(or water buffalo)scales.
This one COULD be an Indian import to Afghanistan or it could have been locally made.The numbers and the pearl scales are a bit unusual for this type of knife.
Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:20 pm
by dkonopinski
smiling-knife wrote:The NO 6 England and + X marks are often seen on Asian made knives. The marks are loosely based on those of Joseph Rodgers Sheffield. s-k

Loosely is right. For those who may not know, in the case of Joseph Rodgers the No 6 was part of the works address - No 6 Norfolk Street, Sheffield.
The Joseph Rodgers trade mark was the Star & Maltese cross which was granted in 1764 by the Company of Cutlers.
Joseph Rodgers is one of the brands now owned by Egginton Brothers in Sheffield and is still in production, but alas the knives are not what they were.
David
Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:50 pm
by smiling-knife
Hi David. Thanks for the additional information. That 'No 6' mark often appears on the Asian folding Dirks. They were discussed here before somewhere, but I couldn't find the thread with a brief search.

s-k
Re: Looking to pick a knowledgable brain
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:07 pm
by junebug