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Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:22 pm
by Willintheweeds
New, clueless guy here with some questions regarding Barlows, - if I am able to attach a photo you should see a Boker Barlow with the main blade stamped "KA BAR 1014 USA", and my question is did Boker have a relationship with Ka-Bar, or is this some sort of frankenknife cobbled together by someone out of parts years ago? I bought the knife to give to a 14 year old nephew, thinking it was better than an Imperial Barlow but not so valuable to worry about it he loses or damages it. The knife isn't mint, but I do not think it has been sharpened, and if it makes more sense to preserve it and find the nephew another I will. Thanks for any comments or opinions.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:44 pm
by edge213
I'm no expert, but I say the blade has replaced.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:19 am
by philco
edge213 wrote:I'm no expert, but I say the blade has replaced.
I agree. The pin is visible in the bolster which is not usually the case on most barlow knives.
I know of no relationship between Boker and KaBar although in the knife business, anything is possible.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:27 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Break out the Dremmel, Dale.
Here's a new one on me, A Delmar Barlow. Great snap and halfstop. Seen lots of pocket time, gonna see a whole lot more.
WB
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:11 pm
by orvet
I recently picked up a Kabar 1013 from eBay. I don’t know a great deal about Kabar’s, but I had not seen this pattern before. When the knife arrived and I had it in my hand, it was plain to me to see that it was built on a Camillus Barlow frame. Camillus did use the smooth steel bolsters for some Barlows in both the Camillus and the Camco lines. It was apparent to me that this Kabar 1013 was either built on a Camillus frame originally and had the handles changed at some point, or someone had put a Kabar blade in a Camillus/Camco Barlow and put what handles on it.



From some of the unused Kabar blades I have purchased on eBay that supposedly came from the Kabar factory, I am inclined to think that Camillus made a number of different patterns for Kabar. According to Goins, Cole National Corporation purchased Kabar in 1966, they in turn sold it to Alcas Cutlery Company in 1996. I am inclined to think that at some point in time Camillus made Kabar knives as I have noted a distinct similarity in some patterns.
I decided I didn’t like the handles that were on the Kabar 1013, so I’m in the process of changing them. I’m almost done, so I’ll post pictures when I have it completed.
I am pretty sure your Kabar 1014/Boker Barlow didn’t come that way from the factory. It looks to me as if someone put a Kabar blade in a Boker frame. Would be interesting to have that knife apart and measure the component parts and check the tang to see if it had been thinned.
Rob,
I don’t think I will use the Dremel to scrat the ancient Barlow. It deserves to be done by hand as the original scratting was done. It is my understanding that they were often done with the file.
I love that Delmar Barlow!
I have not seen one before. Goins’ says it was a brand used by Simmons Hardware, circa 1939.
Great find!

Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:29 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Hey Dale, thanks for the info and comment. Price guide said ca. 1910, but made no reference to Simmons Hdw., good to know.
I've always wanted to do a set of knife handles with gun checkering. A set of checkering files would probably work pretty well for doing scratted handles too.
WB
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:47 pm
by wlf
Be glad to see your artistry Dale,nice knives they are.
Hey Rob,hope it's on a farmers jack.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:47 pm
by Colonel26
That's a real nifty Delmar. I'd never heard of that brand. Thanks for the history Dale. I have a soft spot for hardware and department store brand knives.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:57 am
by whitebuffalo58
Thanks guys!
Lyle, I'm just not sure if I know anybody that would enjoy a farmer's jack with gun checkered handles.
WB

Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:53 pm
by wlf
It could be worth a try,someone might be interested,and I think you might be able to pull it off.

Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:33 am
by whitebuffalo58
It's easy to do good work, when you're doing it for good people Lyle.
WB
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:10 pm
by Willintheweeds
I found this little barlow style (it looks like a barlow to me, but I'm completely new at this) stamped Solar on the main blade, nothing else. It is 2 3/4" long closed, 4 5/8" open, doesn't look to have been used. Any ideas on how old it is or where made? I have never heard or a "Solar" knife company, thanks in advance.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:55 am
by steve99f
Certainly a barlow pattern pocket knife. I can't tell you anything about Solar. Welcome to AAPK.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:16 pm
by edge213
Sorry it took so long to reply, but I found nothing on Solar.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:18 pm
by edge213
Some of my Barlows.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:40 am
by mrwatch
Willintheweeds wrote:I found this little barlow style (it looks like a barlow to me, but I'm completely new at this) stamped Solar on the main blade, nothing else. It is 2 3/4" long closed, 4 5/8" open, doesn't look to have been used. Any ideas on how old it is or where made? I have never heard or a "Solar" knife company, thanks in advance.
This may be no relation?
http://soloscientific.com/index.html
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:16 pm
by Beechtree
David, it looks like you have a couple......
Which is your favorite?
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:10 pm
by orvet
I picked up a couple recently, an Ulster and a Hammer Brand. The Hammer Brand is NOT a shell handle, I think it may be a New York Knife Hammer Brand. Does anyone have a NYK Hammer Brand Barlow we can compare it to?
Here are the pics:
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:18 pm
by edge213
Beechtree wrote:David, it looks like you have a couple......
Which is your favorite?
Hard to pick a favorite, but probably the Cripple Creek. I have about 10 more that aren't in this case, which includes an S&M that I like alot.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:23 pm
by edge213
Dale, that Hammer Brand is a beauty. I do like Barlows.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:12 pm
by edge213
My newest Barlow additions.
1: 2009 Remington Daddy Barlow (Bear & Sons)
2: Western USA 822
3: Lakeside Cutlery a trademark used by Montgomery Ward 1920-1930
4: Shapleigh Hardware Diamond Edge
5: One of my new favorites. A customized Kabar by Orvet (Dale Vincent) Impala jigged buffalo horn
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:23 pm
by Colonel26
Dale, I'm no great fan of Barlows in general, but that Hammer Brand is NICE!
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:22 am
by JohnR
Dale, just got this New York Knife Co Hammer Brand, it's a little rough, they are a hard knife to find.
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:27 am
by orvet
Beautiful old NYK Barlow John!
I have not even seen a NYK Barlow for sale, so you are doing better than I am!
Re: The Venerable Old Barlow
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:08 am
by edge213
More Barlows!!
1- American Knife Co. Winsted Conn.
2- E.K.Tryon Co. Philadelphia
3- John Primble Belknap Hdw & Mfg Co Blue Grass on bolsters
4- Queen aluminum frame that has had the delrin replaced with stag. Ugly knife, I know, but I like it. It's a barlow.
5- Bulldog
Sorry for the bad pics. Used a tablet.