Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:10 pm
This knife came up on ebay and I just couldn't swing it, had already bought too many knives that week, so I let it go. Fortunately he relisted it and the second time I got it. Pradel was a French brand of the highest reputation. I am lifting this from Britishblades.com, where Saint-Just, one of the moderators, posted this:
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The history of Pradel knives is set between 1850 and 1960. The company was owned by 4 successive generations of Pradel.
Etienne Pradel created the first "Pradel", closely based on a single blade type from Sheffield.
It was somewhat a revolution:
First, the way the knife was built allowed a quick adjustment after assembling, not before like the rest of the production at the time (I am quoting loosely from the French here, maybe Russel can bring some light to this). The cutting of the scales was also very accurate, with always the same thickness: Therefore all knives were strictly identical and perfectly adjusted
Second, the "notch" (we call it "chin") on the blade protruded significantly, allowing a sharp closing snap without damage to the edge (unlike the laguioles). People would recognise the knife just by the noise it made when it snap shut, and would comment "C'est un Pradel!". The image was that of a strong, quality knife.
Made in Thiers, it was mainly sold in Brittany and Normandy to both farmers and fishermen (hence the stamp).
In 1862 E. Pradel stamped his blades with an anchor.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/sho ... adel-story
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That's the background. Evidently the Pradel was such a renowned knife that dozens of other companies made similar knives and adopted stamps that looked confusingly like the Pradel anchor. My Veritable Fedide is one of them.
Here is a site (in French, but Google Translate does a good job) that explains all the real and many of the fake stamps:
http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/marques_pradel.htm
You can see the Veritable Fedide stamp in the section labeled B) - Les faux PRADEL ( contrefaçons ).
Regardless of it's fraudulent origins, my knife is a solid, quality item with the Pradel style snap.
The term "Tout Acier" on the handle means "All Steel", and "Depose" means "registered design", more or less like our "trademark registered".
On the reverse handle is stamped "Inusable" which is French for "Indestructible".
I wonder how this knife came to be in America? Somehow I doubt if there are many more on this side of the pond.
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The history of Pradel knives is set between 1850 and 1960. The company was owned by 4 successive generations of Pradel.
Etienne Pradel created the first "Pradel", closely based on a single blade type from Sheffield.
It was somewhat a revolution:
First, the way the knife was built allowed a quick adjustment after assembling, not before like the rest of the production at the time (I am quoting loosely from the French here, maybe Russel can bring some light to this). The cutting of the scales was also very accurate, with always the same thickness: Therefore all knives were strictly identical and perfectly adjusted
Second, the "notch" (we call it "chin") on the blade protruded significantly, allowing a sharp closing snap without damage to the edge (unlike the laguioles). People would recognise the knife just by the noise it made when it snap shut, and would comment "C'est un Pradel!". The image was that of a strong, quality knife.
Made in Thiers, it was mainly sold in Brittany and Normandy to both farmers and fishermen (hence the stamp).
In 1862 E. Pradel stamped his blades with an anchor.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/sho ... adel-story
_______________________________________________________________________
That's the background. Evidently the Pradel was such a renowned knife that dozens of other companies made similar knives and adopted stamps that looked confusingly like the Pradel anchor. My Veritable Fedide is one of them.
Here is a site (in French, but Google Translate does a good job) that explains all the real and many of the fake stamps:
http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/marques_pradel.htm
You can see the Veritable Fedide stamp in the section labeled B) - Les faux PRADEL ( contrefaçons ).
Regardless of it's fraudulent origins, my knife is a solid, quality item with the Pradel style snap.
The term "Tout Acier" on the handle means "All Steel", and "Depose" means "registered design", more or less like our "trademark registered".
On the reverse handle is stamped "Inusable" which is French for "Indestructible".
I wonder how this knife came to be in America? Somehow I doubt if there are many more on this side of the pond.