All About Pocket Knives

thanks for the image rules explanation
attachments hosted on aapk, cannot be easily img linked to from other sites either
the attachment code that can be quoted wont work to display an image: but if you do enough steps the img link can be extracted, for example if you want to link to a photo on aapk from another site:
(click to see the image the above attachment fails to display)
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 030283.JPG

test knife picture link:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P9sc ... G_7171.JPG

I vote for bringing back the img code, and I also vote for giving users full deletion rights to images hosted on aapk

jon_slider wrote:I vote for bringing back the img code, and I also vote for giving users full deletion rights to images hosted on aapk

First, I am not even sure that possible in the forum software to give users full deletion rights. That is Bryan’s purview & expertise, not mine. They have never had that before, for what reason should we start doing that now?


Second, I guess my question is why?
When I have seen this done in another forum, one member got mad at another one and started deleting his own old posts that were within that forum’s time frame to edit. Several threads, to which this member had contributed heavily, make no sense at all after his posts were removed. I don’t think that is fair to the other members of the forum, especially if the topic of the discussion is a knife of particular interest.

Why would anyone want to post something whether it is a picture or text and then want to go back at some unspecified time in the future? If very many people did that the forum would be chaos. If 2 or 3 posters removed their posts, since many posts are made as a response to address the previous post, then after a short time many topics would be utter nonsense.

If you only want to share your pictures or words with AAPK temporarily, then the chat room (when it gets fixed) is probably the best place to post them.

Now, I do understand that we all make mistakes. If there is there something you posted in error or that on second thought you thought needed to be deleted for some reason, (e.g.- it may offend someone), let a Moderator know and we can delete it for you.

The decision to remove the IMG button was done so that the pictures would remain in the posts and available years from now to collectors researching certain companies, brands, patterns, etc. Why would any collector want to mess that up?

I have never used the IMG button and always downloaded from my computer.
Nothing is more annoying when your are doing research and it says image removed. Why put it there in the first place if you know it could be removed by your photo site.
AAPK has a very good system where you can check what you are going to post.Your pictures are in front of you before you press to submit button.
As Dale said if you make a mistake one of the moderators will fix it for you.
I had to join Photo Buck to post picture on another site. Where are your photos stored USA,China ,India ???
Grant

orvet wrote:If you only want to share your pictures or words with AAPK temporarily, then the chat room (when it gets fixed) is probably the best place to post them.

I see you are having trouble understanding my reasons for using a photo hosting site. It has nothing to do with wanting to only share photos temporarily. Nor do I have a need for you to delete anything I can no longer edit, but thanks for offering.

Maybe this will help you understand my reasons better, but in any case, I certainly am not trying to stop a collector from looking at my photos. I agree with the goal of aapk being a resource, and I agree it is a shame when photos go missing.

However, I think aapk's new rule will limit the number of images posted here, which is counterproductive to the original intent of the rule change. In any case, Im just stating my opinion, and am not trying to upset anyone.

I use a photo hosting site for all my photos, they are not on my computer, so I cant upload them to aapk.

My photo sites are not membership based, so the images should be there long after I am gone.

Because I post to more than one forum, it is more convenient for me to use links to my photo storage.

IF anyone wants to use any of the photos I have posted to public sites, you are more than welcome to do so.

Here are my photo archives, help yourselves, feel free to move them and use them anywhere you like:
http://s974.photobucket.com/user/jon_sl ... t=3&page=1
https://picasaweb.google.com/sliderjon/Knives

jon_slider wrote:how do I delete a photo I uploaded to aapk?

how do I upload a photo from a web page to aapk?

how do I quote a post that has a photo?

how do I edit or delete an old post of mine?

jon_slider wrote:I vote for bringing back the img code, and I also vote for giving users full deletion rights to images hosted on aapk

jon_slider wrote:Maybe this will help you understand my reasons better, but in any case, I certainly am not trying to stop a collector from looking at my photos. I agree with the goal of aapk being a resource, and I agree it is a shame when photos go missing.

However, I think aapk's new rule will limit the number of images posted here, which is counterproductive to the original intent of the rule change. In any case, Im just stating my opinion, and am not trying to upset anyone.

IF anyone wants to use any of the photos I have posted to public sites, you are more than welcome to do so.

Here are my photo archives, help yourselves, feel free to move them and use them anywhere you like:
http://s974.photobucket.com/user/jon_sl ... t=3&page=1
https://picasaweb.google.com/sliderjon/Knives

Hey Jon,

No offense but your 1st and 2nd post were answered accordingly as to what you asked. Seems like members are spending personal time replying in an effort to help. Your third reply seems like an appropriate concern now that you have clarified it after your first 2 posts. However, I would venture to say that most members already post directly anyway or those that don't will adjust (or abstain if they chose) so I don't think that the amount of data/pics posted will be impacted. In most cases, "No pics equals little or no info". A few very active members said hey I may not like it but not the end of the world, I'll adjust or will withhold certain content and just not post it. I personally feel like I have more control over my pics posted direct from my PC. If I don't want anyone to see it, I just don't post it. Personally not a fan of blindly clicking on posted links from members either.

This is a free forum. Most effort (along with the mods) and expense is incurred by Bryan. Hell, the knife stores last I checked can be opened for 15 bucks, one time fee with only 2 percent of sales going to AAPK. Where can you do that for 2 percent of sales? See any advertisement banners crowding the page or pop ups like other forums?

So my question is this...

If alittle inconvienence on members to post pics that leads to a better site and research forum, is that not worth the extra effort?

Regards, Jerry

Thank you for the logical explanation of your reasons Jon, they makes sense. Especially with all the cloud-based devices that store most everything outside the PC or device used, (i.e. pad, notebook, tablet, phone, etc). I had not considered that a lot of are now using their phones to access AAPK, and I suppose most phones have limited storage space.

Personally, I don’t trust the cloud, but that is just me.

jon_slider wrote: However, I think aapk's new rule will limit the number of images posted here, which is counterproductive to the original intent of the rule change. In any case, Im just stating my opinion, and am not trying to upset anyone.

I use a photo hosting site for all my photos, they are not on my computer, so I cant upload them to aapk.

My photo sites are not membership based, so the images should be there long after I am gone.

Because I post to more than one forum, it is more convenient for me to use links to my photo storage.

I guess time will tell if we see fewer pictures posted without the IMG button, I am not certain that it will make a difference, but I guess we will see. Maybe Bryan has a way he can monitor that and compare before & after numbers.

It may be that your pictures will be there long after you are gone, but I think you are the exception to the rule. I am afraid most people use PhotoBucket or some other such site. If they stop paying the pictures go away.

Unfortunately, no matter which way we go on this it will inconvenience some of our members; either the collectors and students of knives who use AAPK as a research tool that without the pictures there is no value here for them, or folks like you who cannot easily download from your PC.

This is an interesting dichotomy, it seems we can’t please both groups.
Any suggestions?

Dale.I have taken a photo with my IPad and posted it using my IPad in mail call without any problems.
Anyone with a Iphone should be able to post pictures straight from their phone.
Grant

Shearer wrote:Anyone with a Iphone should be able to post pictures straight from their phone.
Grant

Please feel free to post any way that works for you, and I will do the same.

I think deleting the img code is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I have yet to hear why eliminating one of the primary sources of images on aapk is a good way to accomplish the goal of increasing the number of images on aapk servers.

As an alternative to banning img codes, and with the goal of increasing images stored on aapk servers, I suggest that aapk consider the viability of running a harvesting program to download all offsite images linked in posts here, to its own aapk servers automatically.

And lest I seem ungrateful, a big Thank You to my aapk hosts for allowing me to post here. I hope my posts, with extensive use of images, will benefit others.

here are a some of the image rich threads I have contributed to on aapk, hosting for which I am very grateful.

http://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_f ... =2&t=37404
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... =2&t=36805
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=29694&start=15
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... =2&t=37295

ps, I would also like to add a suggestion that something be done to allow quoting of image posts from fellow aapk members. Sometimes it is nice to give a brother a pat on the back by reposting his pictures (without downloading and reposting them). I think aapk could provide linking rights to its own image server at least, no? At the moment Im guessing there will be a lot more pages where people quote someone elses picture, that wont show up. And often people dont post their own picture, they just want to comment on one someone else posted... I think you get the idea.

jon_slider wrote:I suggest that aapk consider the viability of running a harvesting program to download all offsite images linked in posts here, to its own aapk servers automatically.

This could work.

I'll look into the idea further as soon as I can.

It's you all's site and you can run it any way you like but since you don't allow uploading from photo hosting sites any more how's about putting up some directions for the cyberly (yes,,, that's a word:)challenged like myself.

I looked in the FAQ but didn't find much and then tried to follow some of the stuff that's been talked about in this thread. I did manage to load a pic in the Gallery that turned out about five times larger than my computer screen but have absolutely no clue what good that did??????

A little help might go a long way with the naysayers and dummies like me.
Other wise I guess I'll just have to quit posting pix over here.
Again,,, it's your site, run it any way you want. No skin off my hind end.

Here you go;

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... =2&t=38797

Miller Bro`s wrote:Here you go;

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... =2&t=38797

Thanks Mr. Miller
I looked everywhere except the top of the page for that darned thing.

Took a couple of tries but I think I've got it now.
Faster than applying for the ACA too

It did come out pretty small though but I think I read that there's an option that I must of overlooked.

MyDogsHunt wrote:It did come out pretty small though but I think I read that there's an option that I must of overlooked.

Once the picture is posted give it a couple of clicks and it will expand full page

Miller Bro`s wrote:

MyDogsHunt wrote:It did come out pretty small though but I think I read that there's an option that I must of overlooked.

Once the picture is posted give it a couple of clicks and it will expand full page

Well,,, did that,,,, now the pix so big I can only see about a tenth of it.
Scrolling back and forth to only see a portion at a time pretty much negates the whole idea IMO.

In closing,,, put me down as one of those that doesn't like the "New and Improved" photo hosting experience.
I don't post here very often though so no big deal.
Later

I just checked the picture you posted in fixed blades, if you click it once it comes out perfect, full page.

If you click it twice it expands more for looking at fine details.

Not for me.
One click and that Roosters head fills up my screen.

Appreciate the help but I'm not going to mess with it anymore.

No body's going to miss the two or three pics I post per year anyway.

Some people have their browsers set to 'automatically resize' images to fit their display size......and some of us don't
I try to resize my images so that they are pretty well fit to the page when clicked, it is a bit of a pain when you click a pic and it loads 5 times larger than your screen, I usually just move on and don't look at the pic up close. I have always used the 'new method' of posting pics here on AAPK and find it really simple......but it requires a bit more work to make the image easily viewed by everyone regardless of their browser setting.

Quick resize is...right-click image, click edit, press ctrl-w, press tab, enter 25-35 (percentage field), press enter and then press ctrl-s to save.....the pic is then ready to post at approx. the right size. That 25-35 works on my camera setting that makes most of my images 4-4.5mb at full resolution. I find that images sized at approx. 300kb are best for upload to AAPK.

*Those resize instructions are on Win7 and the image opens for edit in MS Paint.

IM

I used 35% to resize the image in question.....30% may have been better.
....and to MyDogsHunt, I would miss your pics.....they are AWESOME!

IM

Trevor -- That picture is AWESOME. The colors are vibrant. The focus is crisp and clear. The depth of field is marveoulous and as far as the composition is concerned, the song "I Got Rhythm", composed by George Gershwin, opines "Who could ask for anything more?"

The image button always worked well for me. When I attempt to add an attachment only a small percentage of my photos appear. When I try to select one for uploading my screen freezes and I have to leave the site. Maybe it's a problem with my computer but everything else is working properly. Anyone else having a similar experience?

Steve, PM inbound.

thanks for everything Dale and Bryan and all the other VIP's here
I think my photos work well and I just edit then a little to cut down on glare and shadow to read tang stamps, not to make pretty
i resize them so they upload faster and don't overload the site, hope I am doing the right thing
the folks I respect talk about scanners and light box's but that may be in my future