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Vignos & Novelty
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:21 pm
by 9ball
That is right, Bill and Thanks.
Depending on the source, Vignos went in business around 1879 and it became Novelty in 1886. I have seen more "nudes" than any other.
I remember the KW read, I think his great grand daughter wrote it also.
That was about two or three years ago. IIRC
Rick

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:28 pm
by Blade Runner
Very interesting piece of history 9ball, BTW good to see you back. Now here is a WWII military contract knife, reportedly issued to Army Air Corps Pilots during the war.
Gary

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:03 pm
by stockman
Interesting old sailor knife. Miller Bro's 1920's 4 3/4" long closed
Stockman
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:48 pm
by Blade Runner
Thats a real nice one stockman.
Gary
Old knives
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:39 am
by 9ball
If she has steel liners and bolsters, that what she be Blade Runner

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I guess a lot of folks would not know one, because it does not look "Military".
Yes, that is a nice one also Stockman. Looks to have the brass screws for handle/scales 'pins' also.
Both very nice knives and history.
9ball

Game is on, got to run
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:15 am
by Blade Runner
Yep, its got steel bolsters and liners 9ball.
Take Care
Gary
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:50 pm
by smiling-knife
Those are great old knives guys. Stockman and Blade Runner, those are beauties. Looks to be a great example of the sqaure-end sailor's knife stockman.

. s-k
My old c1900 Wostenholm I*XL hunting knife
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:44 am
by Blade Runner
Wow, S-K thats very nice. Heres an old Case Knife from the very early tested era. Shes been around the block a few times and is beginning to show her age, but a nice honest old retired veteran. I love the old raised letter bomb shield. I wonder how many new knives will still be around at this age.
Gary

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:49 am
by muskrat man
nice ones guys. Hey BR I have a question. I see alot of your knives are free of patina, but show thier pits, how is this? They don't look to be polished or buffed, has the active rust and patina been removed to a satin finish? I'm just curious is all. Very nice knives.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:35 am
by upnorth
Great knives, s-k, BR, everyone! I have to get my new computer running to post some pics here, and it is driving me nuts! I've recently received a small collection of old Case Harness Jacks, and will have them up by the weekend, hopefully!
This thread is a treasure trove!!
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:19 pm
by Blade Runner
muskratman, The knives are in the condition I bought them in. I have posted nice clear pics, so I'll let you draw your own conclusion.
Gary
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:25 pm
by smiling-knife
Hi Blade Runner you have lots of great old knives and your photos are outstanding. Thanks
Old knives
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:38 pm
by 9ball
I will agree with Upnorth. I really like the old stuff myself.
Until his get here; This is an old Harness Jack made by Peal Ranton, both blades tang stamped.
I do not know much about these folks and it is the only knife I have ever owned made by them.
Bolsters are solid steel, but it has brass liners and pins. Feels tight and well made.
Maybe if it is okay with the Boss and you folks, I may dig out a few straight razors someday also.
9ball

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:53 pm
by smiling-knife
I don't think I have posted this one here. This Christopher Johnson jack knife is top of the line in terms of fit and finish. Slightly unusual to have a lambsfoot main blade. Unfortunately, it was stored in some guys garage or something for years and is quite crusty. I saw it on ebay and asked the seller about it as the photo was poor. He sounded like he was trying to talk me out of buying it. I am really glad I did. The snap and half stops are like new. There was lots of gunk and a few splashes of paint on the hande. A gentle cleaning revealed beautiful dark red almost black bone. Looks black in the photo. I resited the temptation to clean the blades. I like it as is.

s-k
camillus timber scribe
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:50 pm
by jonet143
here's one i feel is an older knife. 3 3/4" closed
stamped on front side;
camillus
cutlery co.
camillus,n.y.
u.s.a.
back side is stamped;
1007
i don't have any idea as to age. perhaps camco will shed some light for me. it seems to be in unused condition with patina. strong snap. wood handles are crack/chip free. brass pins, steel bolsters and liners, pivot pin and spring retainer pin.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:17 am
by Blade Runner
Thanks S-K, you have some super nice old knives. 9ball,Johnnie yours are great as well. Everyones are great. Can't wait to see upnorth's latest Case Harness jacks
Gary
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:38 am
by Blade Runner
Tested XX 6235 1/2

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:40 am
by upnorth
s-k, johnnie, BR, I want to thank you all for keeping the flow of oldies rolling by! I never tire of looking at those historical treasures.
9Ball, you are twnging my heart strings with that rare HJ!! Never heard of the tang stamp, but I suspect it was made for them by Utica. I'll compare it to some known ones, when I get my files back, and post further on it.
I think my wife is getting jealous of my time on the various forums. With my computer acting up, she's rediscovered what a fun guy I am!!
I guess I'll have to retire so I have more time for both!!

Old Knives
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:44 pm
by 9ball
Good morning and Thanks Folks, everyone of you.
I did not read all this Thread until last night & I have seen some Mighty Fine Old Knives.
I have been called away on some important business and will countinue with this ASAP.
Here is an old R412 Remington Jack with rubber handles/scales, brass pins & liners, steel bolsters and a pinned on nickel silver bomb shield I had ready.
I will send Bryan a close up of the shield for our Research section soon.
Ya'll hold down The Fort, I got a mission.
9ball
W.B., Robeson made that Grand Daddy Barlow in both bone & plastic/delrin. Are you still interested?
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:00 pm
by smiling-knife
Nice one 9-ball. Good luck on your mission. Go safely.
Here is my little Remington jack knife.
Looking forward to your posts very much waynorth.

s-k
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:46 am
by CCBill
Here is an oldie I picked up recently. All 4 blades have long pulls. Actually still has some snap left. FULL of gunk. Need to very carefully clean it out.
Hard to read the name but maybe the engraved bolsters will be a clue to somebody more knowledgable than me. I THINK it says "Wragg & Son, Sheffield". If so, Goins dates it to 1850-60. It is 3&1/2" long. Very thin for a 4 blade. Perfect to carry.
Should I have the MOP scales replaced or leave it as is? Need your help.
...CCBill...
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:51 am
by smiling-knife
Great knife CCBill. I found some information on John Wragg & Son. According to my sources, John Wragg was never actually in the cutlery business. He owned a successful pickled egg business. His youngest son Joseph is reported to have started the John Wragg & Son cutlery company. It seems like it was in business upto c1900. I hope this is of interest. If it was mine, I would keep it in original condition but that is just my opinion.

s-k
Wragg
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:12 am
by 9ball
W

W Bill ,
I would hold on to that one and leave as be. You need to have someone look that dude looked over before your do anything! JMO.
I owned an early Wragg draw knife at one time. That stuff is highly collectible now, even on shaftBay.
United made some knock off's several years back, but that sure does not look like one of them. Is the tang stamp in an arch or straight line? Are all blade stamped? I believe he/they made some Bowie/frontier type knives back in the day, high dollar stuff now.
Nice find if it is the real deal.
I will be back soon with old knife photo's & tales/tells, got things on the home front to attend.
9ball

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:23 am
by singin46
Ok not that old but the oldest I have at the moment.
Schatt and Morgan Waterfall pen or office knife, {1clip and 1file}
Thanks
Perry
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:44 am
by orvet
CCBill wrote: Should I have the MOP scales replaced or leave it as is? Need your help.
...CCBill...
Bill,
Is it just a crack in the MOP? I have some stuff that is supposed to be good for that type of repair. It will also do some filling where there are small gaps. It is called Zap-A-Gap. you can get it from Jantz Supply.
It might be worth a try instead of replacing the whole handle. It would definitely keep it more original. It isn't cheap, but a lot less than MOP!
Dale