Old and Obscure Brands

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::tu:: great knives Bill !
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Thanks for the compliments everyone. This is a great place to hangout.
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HERE IS ONE RICHARDS & CONOVER HDW. CO. butterbean knife this was a company based out of Kanas City started in 1875.
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Wow, very cool knife Paul! Its one you dont see very often. ::drool::
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gino wrote:Wow, very cool knife Paul! Its one you dont see very often. ::drool::
Thanks GINO, old butterbeans don't come around often
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Paul that's a killer. I love whittlers.
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Beautiful knife, Paul! ::tu::
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That's a big ol bean, ain't it Paul! I like it ::tu::

And those are some very nice old knives too, Bill :D

Here's a couple more I've got somewhere around here. Just don't know exactly where to look. ::shrug::
I'll get um all inventoried somehow someday.
These are the sellers pics - better than my pics anyhow!!

LORD BROS ... noted in Goins', but no date or info.

PRENTISS KNIFE CO. NEW YORK g 1916 - 1930
(if i remember correctly, there is an over stamp on one of the blades)


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thanks Guys, nice Joe . ::nod:: there were a lot of companys back in the day. thats what makes this thread so good
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orvet wrote:If that one sells at that price we will know P.T. Barnum was right! ::facepalm:: ::disgust::

I just found an old catalog cut showing that exact knife, the wholesale price to a dealer was $8.25 per gross!

That comes to a whole .05 cents each :shock:

No wonder they are so cheaply made how can a factory make them for less than .05 cents and still make a profit?? ::shrug:: :lol:
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One more to add to the list a Sta-sharp which was sold by Sears and Roebuck in the 30's
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A couple oldies I found in the mail in the last couple weeks( had to wait to get out of the dang hospital to see em......grrrr).....worth the wai though. First one is an old Cattaragus Barlow recentely positivey identified by robinet(thanks again). Second is a rough but pretty Holley Mfg knife. One blade missing and the others worn out but pretty. Nice bone handles on both. The 1st Cat photos are from the previous owner... then I took a couple quick scans for a better look at the handles.

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Owd Wullie wrote:Roberts Bros. ANY info welcomed.
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Hi Wullie,
I cant find any info on my old "Roberts" knife either. The one I have looks like the same stamp as yours except that there is no "Brothers" on mine. The master blade is stamped "Roberts Sheffield" and the secondary blade is stamped "Made in England". 3 inches long with the blades closed See photos.

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Great knives everyone. I'm seeing some brands that I have never heard of. Love the older stags. Keep them coming.
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::tu:: great knives guys
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Powr-Kraft Muskrat - never even seen this tang stamp before, but it's built alot like a Camillus.

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Found a couple of Griffon cutlery knives and Griffon bill, lots of good knives for sale in the AAPK stores
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My book shows Brighton Cutlery Works Germany circa 1900. I debated with myself for a while exactly what you call this pattern and then decided to defer to Mr. Levine. Here's what he has to say in his book Levine's Guide to Knives and their Values, 2nd Edition - "Some manufacturers called all of their equal end pen knives 'senators' while others limited this name to knives of intermediate proportions. The latter firms called very narrow equal end pen knives 'regular pens." So if Brighton was one of the latter firms my knife would be a regular pen. If not, it would be a senator. I wonder if any manufacturers called their knives "irregular pens?"

As far as the name "Brighton" on a German knife. It is my conjecture that during the interwar period a lot of importers of German knives desperately hoped to convey the impression that they were English. Anything but German...Thankfully those days are past and the Solingen firms can proudly stamp their own names on their knives now.
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Here is an updated list of the 230 knife brands represented in this thread:

A. Reinig
A.A. Fisher
A.E. Fuller
A.J. Jordan
A.W. Flint & Co.
A*1 Tyler Celebrated Cutlery
Abercrombie & Fitch
Adams & Bro
Adams & Sons
Adolph Blaich Arrow Brand
Ahapen Faacidbr (Cyrilic)
Alfred & Son Celebrated Cutlery
Alpha
Ameike
American Knife Co.
American Shear & Knife Co.
Aquila
Argyle Cutlery Co.
Ascend W.T. Stanforth
Automatic Knife Co.
Autopoint
B.B. Knife Co.
Barber Bros.
Bergman & Scuddig
Berkshire Cut. Co.
Bigelow & Dowse
Bower
Brantford Cutlery
Brighton Cutlery Works
Brown Treacy & Co.
Burkinshaw
C.F. Kayser
Camillus
Canastota Knife Co.
Car-Van S.P. Co.
Case
Catskill Knife Co.
Cattaraugus
Challenge
Charles Bradshaw
Chris Wolf
Clark Bros
Clark's XLT
Coca-Cola
Columbia
Commander/Metropolitan Cutlery
Conn. Cutlery
Constant
Cook Bros.
Corliss Cutlery Co.
Corning Knife Company
Cornwall Knife Co.
Crooks Bros.
Crucible Knife Co.
Cussins & Fearn
Dame Smith & Hall
Duane Cutlery
E C Simmons Keen Kutter
E. Renaud
E.B. Sears
E.M. Dickinson
Eagle
Edward K.Tryon
EIG Cutlery
Electric Cut Co
Elgin American Mfg. Co.
Empire
Enterprise Cutlery
Ernst Brückmann
Excelsior Knife Company
F. Herder & Son
F.D. Bast
F.GG & Sawyer
F.J.F Primastahl
Fairmount Cutlery
Fairplay Brothers
Fayban Knife Co.
Fayetteville Knife Co.
Fidelity Knife Co
Fletcher Hardware Co.
Foron
G. Gregory
G.H. Exhibition
G&J Allen Superior Cutlery
Gales & Co
Garantie Germany
Gellman Bros.
George Woodhead
GLP Co.
GML
Golden Rule Cutlery
Gonon
Great Eastern
Griffon Cutlery
H. Boker & Sons
H.& B. Mfg. Co.
H.H. Tammen Lucky Buck
H.W.Mason & Co.
Hammer Brand N Y Knife Co
Hargreaves & Co.
Hartford Cutlery
Harvey Bros
Haynes Stellite
Henderson & Co.
Henry Wilton
Herm. Konejung
Herms
Hollinger
Holly Mfg Co.
HOLMAC
Holub
Hugo Koller
Ideal Cutlery Co
Imperial
J. Dunlap
J. Pritzlaff
J. Ward
J.M. Schmid & Son
Jack Knife Ben
James Milward & Co.
John B. Rand
Jones & Son
Jorcie
Joseph Barnard & Sons
Joseph Gray & Son
Julius Ohliger
K.& B. Cutlery
Kamp Cutlery
King's Kwality
Knickerbocker Cutlery
Kresge
Krusius Bros.
Lamplough Cutlery
Lawton Cutlery
Lenox Cutlery
Lever Cutlery Co.
Lion Cutlery
Lockwood Brothers
Lord Bros.
M.C.Co. Meriden
M.Klaas
M.Y. Rogers Sons & Co.
Magnetic Cutlery Co.
Majestic Cutlery Co.
Manhattan Cut. Co.
Mcknight Cutlery
Miller Bros
Monarch
Moore - Handley
N.& Co.
Nippel
Norfolk Knife Co
North American Cutlery
Ostdiek
Paxton & Gallagher
Penn Cutlery Co.
Peter Hendrichs & Grah
Peters Bros Cut Co.
Portland Cutlery Co.
Powr-Kraft
Prentiss Knife Co.
Prolific H.B & Son
Quaker Cutlery
R. Bunting & Son
R.J. Richter
Rango Cutlery Co.
Richards & Conover Hdw. Co.
Richards Bros. & Sons
Roberts Brothers
Roberts Sheffield
Rosenbaum/Iros Keen
Rostfrei
Russell
S.& A.
S.H.K. & Co.
Saber Japan
Samco
Samuel Robinson
Schatt Morgan Cutlery Co
Schmactenberg Brothers
SCHMIDT & ZIGLER
Schrade Cut Co
Seneca Cutlery
Shumate Knife Co.
Silver Steel
Sorge
Spalding & Co. Phoenix
Sperry & Alexander
St. Lawrence Cutlery Co.
Sta-Sharp
Standard Cut. Co.
Sterling L.G.H
Stevenson
Sword & Shield
Taylor Union Cutlery
Terrier Cutlery
Thomson
Tioga Cutlery
Tonerini Scarperia
Tyler's Celebrated Cutlery
U.K.& R. Co.
U.S. Cutlery Co.
Underhill & Co.
Union Stock
United Cutlery
Utica Co. Germany
Utica Kutmaster
Valley Forge
Van Camp
Vanco
Veb Sesta
Veritable Fedide
Vollmer
Vom Cleff
W. Bingham
W. Spencer & Co.
W.G.C.
W&G Vogel
Wabash Cutlery Co.
Wade & Butcher
Walden Knife Co
Walter Kayser
Warris
Waterville Cutlery
Weske
Wimberly & Thomas
Winchester
Wm. Rodgers
Wm.Congreve
York Cutlery
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::nod:: thanks Trail........for the update..
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Eagleton Knife Company was a brand of Wester & Butz, an old maker in the Merscheid borough of Solingen dating back to 1832. My books show that the Eagleton stamp was used circa 1890, and the lack of a country of origin stamp persuades me that this knife was made before 1891.
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::tu:: nice to see another one join the list. great shape being around 120 years old
will add Arlington cutlery co. NY.......importer thats about all thats out there about this knife company.
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Paul, thanks for posting that knife - it belongs here because it's about as obscure as you can get. Arlington Knife Company is not listed in any of my books, and I only found one reference on Google. What puzzles me is why a company importing such fine knives should be so obscure? I like that big fat spear blade and the red tint to the handle. With no country of origin, I would guess it is pre 1891. The alternative would be that it was American made, despite what Blade said about it being an import brand. It certainly has an American look about it. We can hope that someone will turn up some more information and post it here.
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Don't know about old, but at least obscure, at least I can't find any info on them. Both Crane Brand - Germany
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Tom, nice old knives . maybe prior to kissing crane knives
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