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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:53 am 
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my collection is all american and german i do have a few china made knives but the only reason i have them is my kids got them for me if i got out and buy a knife it is eather american or german but i do have some parker knives made in japan and they are good knives and the rough rider brand are decent knives at cheap prices if case .gec .and all other american brands would lower their prices they would be a lot more people buying them and maybe we could put the china made out of buissness and bring all of our money back to the US


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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:01 am 
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Yeah, that would be knice bigdaddy!

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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:56 am 
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TripleF wrote:
I'm an equal opportunity offender. I like and use both. I'd rather have USA mades...

I'm with you TripleF -- So new on this forum that I hate to disappoint anyone in my newfound knife community but I figure at least you'll know I'm genuine and not afraid to speak my mind 8)

There's a large part of me that wants to buy American - always. And in most cases I do. But sometimes I don't. Sometimes, there's something made outside of the US that fits a niche or need in a unique way when there is no equal US made alternative.

I struggled with this first with firearms. Almost every rifle I own is a US made Marlin or Winchester. But Winchester stopped making the 1887 in the early 20th century so I own a Chinese made Coyote Cap -- yep, it helped someone in China, but it helped an old cowboy gunsmith in Minnesota who improved the design and made their production possible when I bought it from him. Winchester stopped making American made 92's in the middle of the 20th century. So I have a Brazilian Rossi that fits the bill now. And I helped an old cowboy in Texas by buying some parts and a video from him on how to slick it up. With pistols, it's an even different playing field. So many that aren't made in the US that just have to be owned and shot. ::mdm::

With knives it is somewhat similar. The pocket knives I drool over are made right here in the US and am proud to pay top dollar for them. No offense, but the high quality German alternatives don't tempt me in this field. But a Fallkniven A1 Laminated survival knife does. ::paranoid::

And yet why are there a bevy of inexpensive Chinese made pocket knives available? Because their aren't a bevy of inexpensive American made pocket knives to remove the temptation. As others have mentioned, I'm not sure I want to rush out and rough up and abuse my Case and Queen pocket knives. Doesn't mean I won't or don't use them (but some of them I don't want to put a scratch on). But I have no concerns about roughing up my foreign made knives. Sometimes, you just want a high quality inexpensive knife to do a job right. And there's a few knives made in the East that fit that bill.


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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:51 am 
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Just scored this Outdoor Edge Pocket Skinning Knife. Those of you who watch the Spirit of the Wild with Uncle Ted (Nugent) know this is his knife sponsor. Anyhow I did a review on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:44 pm 
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I bought a RR from a man I know.Small congress,had it about 3 mos.,backspring broke.Some of the handle material looks great ,I fear the steel is not.For what its worth I haven't seen many Cases since the early '70s I was real impressed with.But they are a much better knife than RR.Value wise?

I understand there are some quality makers out there now,mostly for the collector market.

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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:29 am 
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I tend to get a feeling that knives made in China are not well liked on ths forum. I am new to the forum so I don't really know what to expect. Being a watch collector, I have found that automatic watch movements (such as Sea Gull) made in China are very good quality, sturdy and well made movements. I assume that knives do not share this same quality? I have a couple of Steal Warrior and Dakota knives that I bought primarily on looks. They seem to be well made, but they do have China on the blades. Are these brands any good? Most of my knives will not actually be used, at least not my new ones. I have several vintage "beaters" that are very sharp and sturdy that I carry for everyday use. Steer me on the right track. Should I stay away from made in China pocket knives?
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The steel warrior is a very well made knife.I have had a few over the last couple of years and I just love them for the price.The Dakota I don't no much about.The knife in the pic is a very well mad knife.


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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:37 am 
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This doesn't walk the same as MOST of my American knives but is SHRIEKING sharp and snaps with authority. Has half stops too. Rough Rider half whittler #RR763
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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:13 am 
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Absintheur wrote:
I read the above posts about not buying Chinese products but if you truly felt that way how can you post on here? I know for a fact many of the parts in the computer you are using where made in China. As for the statement "they war game against us" guess what? We war game against them too.

I buy knives from all over the world but some of the highest quality factory knives I have seen lately have come out of China via AG Russell. To get the same quality you have to spend over twice as much and buy semi custom like the Bose Case knives.

I thought the same thing win I read that post to.

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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:26 am 
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chautauqua wrote:
well if i knew of any cell phones,digital cameras or computers that were usa made i would certanly buy one with out hesitating,further more that exact attitude is soley resposible for our current economic problems ,everyone wants stuff for nothing, because we have no consciuos left as a whole and dont mind if the guy that lives next to us looses his manufactoring job as long as we can cheaply put shiney things in our pockets that are cheap to buy



Just curious if you like German made knives? Seems like everyone on here who cusses China made knives and touts to only buy american looks the other way when it comes to German knives. Do you at least hold true to that as well? Or do you secretly own some German made knives?

Buy what you want. I know my knife case has mostly american made knives in the store right now. I also only have american made knives in my AAPK store. I've not sold a knife in over a month. So much for your idea that somehow I will sell more if I only sell American. :roll:

Course the job I'm saving is my own.....yeah right! ::dang:: Listening to your reasoning may very well put me out of business. But, that's just another American small business going down the drain so what the heck.... ::td::

LOL I love this forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:28 am 
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bigdaddys8ball wrote:
my collection is all american and german i do have a few china made knives but the only reason i have them is my kids got them for me if i got out and buy a knife it is eather american or german but i do have some parker knives made in japan and they are good knives and the rough rider brand are decent knives at cheap prices if case .gec .and all other american brands would lower their prices they would be a lot more people buying them and maybe we could put the china made out of buissness and bring all of our money back to the US

That's not possible because of the union.Now I have started something. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:42 am 
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::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::facepalm::

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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:03 am 
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My experience with Chinese knives is very limited. I do have the A.G. Russell Texas Ranger series. The quality is very good. I understand that AG has to jump thru hoops to keep the quality up. He has to sometimes send a delivery back to China multiple times until he gets what he wants.

I did see two fixed blade knives from Shrade (China). I thought the quality was quite good for the price; better than I expected.


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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:11 am 
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I have a China Buck 3.5" trapper that looks just fine. It has swirled red acrylic that looks GREAT out in sunlight. Decent walk and talk too.

Only bad thing is the main clip blade seems to be every bit as good as any SS blade.

The secondary is NOT!

Rough Rider does not have the nicest jigging on the bone but the blades all come VERY sharp and seem to hold it reasonably well.

Lord knows I'd RATHER get an old carbon steel knife. But RR and their ilk allow testing whether one likes a pattern for cheap!


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 Post subject: Re: Made in China?
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garddogg56 wrote:
::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::facepalm::

Whats with the smillies you got something to say say it.

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xvigauge wrote:
I tend to get a feeling that knives made in China are not well liked on ths forum. I am new to the forum so I don't really know what to expect. Being a watch collector, I have found that automatic watch movements (such as Sea Gull) made in China are very good quality, sturdy and well made movements. I assume that knives do not share this same quality? I have a couple of Steal Warrior and Dakota knives that I bought primarily on looks. They seem to be well made, but they do have China on the blades. Are these brands any good? Most of my knives will not actually be used, at least not my new ones. I have several vintage "beaters" that are very sharp and sturdy that I carry for everyday use. Steer me on the right track. Should I stay away from made in China pocket knives?
xvigauge

I would not buy China made knives in hopes of them gaining in value.I buy them to use and I keep my USA and German made knives in good shape that way.I bought some junk knives from China and I have got some what I think are good knives from China.They make good EDC.

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