Who's into S & M?

Schatt & Morgan knives were first manufacturer back in 1890. The Queen Cutlery company made most of the more recent examples, but Schatt had its own plant in its earlier years that cranked out the oldies. There is no shortage of fantastic Schatt & Morgan knives in existance that have been made over the brand's long & storied history.
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There are sure some fine knives posted in this thread. I like the Keystone series the best, based on the photos. Here are a couple of mine, one little Keystone and one Premier.
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............I like that "big un"!!!!!................... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ................
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69 three of a kind (still waiting for a spear to appear)
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I won this Harness Jack last summer here on AAPK in an auction to benefit the widow of Johnnie Fain. Made in a short run in 2005. Almost 4 inches closed. Pretty bone and fills the hand nicely.
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QTCut5 wrote:Many of my S&Ms also have a "gritty" pivot on the main blade which is completely unaffected by oil/lubricants. I wonder why that is?
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I recently bought a little S&M that has the same "gritty" pivot. Close examination reveals that the bearing surface of the tang was not polished smooth. I think the tiny notches on the surface create the "gritty" feel.
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I got this knife at a very reasonable price with the intention of using it as a carry knife. It is a bit smaller (3 1/2")than my usual carry size but I wanted something different for around the house in my pajama pants. I have always been partial to a sheepsfoot and the main blade is just about the size and shape of the sheepsfoot blades on the old stockman knives that I grew up carrying, while the clip point is about right for delicate tasks needing a good point. For what I intended, this knife is perfect. The walk and talk is exactly what I like other than the aforementioned grittiness. The grind on the blades, especially the main blade, left something to be desired. It took many hundreds of passes over a soft Arkansas stone to get a good edge on the main blade.

If you can live with the gritty pull, and are willing to do a good deal of sharpening to begin with, then I would say this is one fine knife! I like it!
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Mel

A similar issue with this lockback. It's acquisition price was low enough so I can't complain much but its an S & M and should be better. ::huff::

I'm hoping it goes away after working in.
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A few more.
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I recently purchased that same heritage S&M in rosewood as you posted steel my heart, been carrying it for a week now and really liking it. Heres a pic of mine along with another in elk handle that was a recent purchase as well. I'm new to collecting and only have a handful of S&M knives so far but have been more than pleased with the quality.
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jerryd6818 wrote:A few more.
Jerry,
All nice S&M's but tell us more about the orvet knife. :)

Edit....I'm going to guess that it is a modified ( I mean really modified ) Electrician's knife.
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sunknife wrote:I recently purchased that same heritage S&M in rosewood as you posted steel my heart, been carrying it for a week not and really liking it. Heres a pic of mine along with another in elk handle that was a recent purchase as well. I'm new to collecting and only have a handful of S&M knives so far but have been more than pleased with the quality.
Welcome to the forum, Sunknife! That is a nice pair of S&Ms that you posted.

Jerry - you really are a jack knife man! Beautiful knives! I think I have seen that Orvet knife before, but I agree with Bdev that we need the back story.
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QTCut5
That is a knife that ticks all the boxes for me;
1. A Wharncliffe blade
2. Elk scales
3. Whittler
4. A Wharncliffe frame
That knife has it all, congratulation on a good pick-up. A superb knife.
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QTCut5 wrote:69 three of a kind (still waiting for a spear to appear)

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Here's a spear.....
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Just sold this one last night.
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Shoots!! ::dang::

Looks like I missed the boat. That's a beauty, and also the one I want to add to my S&M stag 69 group.

Lemme know if you have (or see) any more for sale.
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QTCut5 wrote:Shoots!! ::dang::

Looks like I missed the boat. That's a beauty, and also the one I want to add to my S&M stag 69 group.

Lemme know if you have (or see) any more for sale.
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Here you go.....

http://www.traditionalpocketknives.com/ ... 1269Barlow
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Thanks for the link, bdev. I have looked at C. Risner's site (TraditionalPocketKnives.com) before...in fact, I recently purchased a #41L Amber Carved Stag Bone Copperhead from him...but I am looking for a #69 Spear Point Barlow in Stag, not Stag Bone. So, the hunt continues. (Risner offers great prices, by the way.)
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Schradenut wrote:QTCut5
That is a knife that ticks all the boxes for me;
1. A Wharncliffe blade
2. Elk scales
3. Whittler
4. A Wharncliffe frame
That knife has it all, congratulation on a good pick-up. A superb knife.
Tony.
Thanks, Tony. Although this is not where I got my Elk #54 Coles Wharncliffe Whittler, this site seems to have the best price if you're looking to pick one up for yourself.

http://www.traditionalpocketknives.com/ ... lerElkStag

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Two from the Keystone Series 1997. They are actually both the same color. The little one is my EDC.
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I took a couple more schatt and morgans out for a walk and some stump shooting over the weekend.
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Dinadan wrote: Jerry - you really are a jack knife man! Beautiful knives! I think I have seen that Orvet knife before, but I agree with Bdev that we need the back story.
Bruno, Mel, I wasn't ignoring you. For some reason I didn't make it back here and didn't see your posts.

There's not much of a story to that knife. Yes, it was done by Dale (pretty obvious with his mark prominently on the blade) and yes it started life as a Camillus Electrician's knife. I guess he just decided I needed it and it showed up in the mail one day. You could have knocked me over with a feather. That's been close to four years ago and I'm still in awe of it. Makes my eyes sparkle every time I see it. I appreciate all the knives with which I've been gifted but there's a few that are especially special and this is one of them. Thank you Dale. Semper Fi brother.
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Edit: Probably a good time to post these while I'm at it. Please pardon the poor pictures of the pearl Doc & Gunstock. No excuse Sir.
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jerryd6818 wrote:
Dinadan wrote: Jerry - you really are a jack knife man! Beautiful knives! I think I have seen that Orvet knife before, but I agree with Bdev that we need the back story.
Bruno, Mel, I wasn't ignoring you. For some reason I didn't make it back here and didn't see your posts.

There's not much of a story to that knife. Yes, it was done by Dale (pretty obvious with his mark prominently on the blade) and yes it started life as a Camillus Electrician's knife. I guess he just decided I needed it and it showed up in the mail one day. You could have knocked me over with a feather. That's been close to four years ago and I'm still in awe of it. Makes my eyes sparkle every time I see it. I appreciate all the knives with which I've been gifted but there's a few that are especially special and this is one of them. Thank you Dale. Semper Fi brother.
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That's the best electrician's knife I've ever seen. PERIOD! ::tu:: :mrgreen:
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I won't argue with you on that one. I gotta tell ya, that electrician's knife is an amazing canvas for mod's. Between Dale and Glenn, they have done some stunners.
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Gettin' back on topic with some English Jacks:
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Onlt S&M I have (so far :lol: Currently eyeing off the S&M Sway Back with large clip blade.)

This is a Centenary 1902 - 2002 Horn Handle and MOP shield F&F is exceptional.
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jerryd6818 wrote:
Dinadan wrote: Jerry - you really are a jack knife man! Beautiful knives! I think I have seen that Orvet knife before, but I agree with Bdev that we need the back story.
Bruno, Mel, I wasn't ignoring you. For some reason I didn't make it back here and didn't see your posts.
No problem, Jerry! Thanks for the story. And your new photos completely bears out my comment that you really are a jack knife man! Really nice knives and fine photos!
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