Found an interesting bayonet, which is totally out of my area of knowledge, for sale. I think it's European, probably WW II era. It has a metal scabbard and a leather sheath with it. Unusual small round protrusion from butt end of the pommel, not sure of its function/purpose but it's threaded and unscrews. Makers name is clearly stamped on the tang, E.J AB. Separated by what appears to be an anchor with a crown over it? Maybe a Naval weapon? After some research and looking at about a thousand eBay listings I can't find another like it. Any one know anything about this item? Any thoughts as to value would be appreciated. Trying to decide whether to make an offer on it.
Ken
Edit: I think I posted this in the wrong place. Probably should go under Military related, or fixed blades. If one of the site moderators would like to move it please do so.
Unusual Bayonet - help needed
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Swedish Mauser Model 1896.
They are quite common.
They are quite common.
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Thanks! That gives me enough to successfully search the web for more information. I knew someone on AAPK could help. I love this site.
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Does anyone know much about a French Bayonet in Excellent condition from 1880?
Does anyone know much about a French Bayonet in Excellent condition from 1880?
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That would be the T-back bayonet for the 11mm metallic cartridge Gras rifle, first produced in 1874.
Since it has a date on the spine, it was produced for the French government/military.
Commercial production, i.e., export, versions have the manufacturer engraved n the spine, but not a date.
The 1874 Gras rifle was a converted 1866 Chassepot rifle. The Chassepot rifle fired a paper cartridge w/ an 11mm projectile.
A conversion was developed by Colonel Basile Gras for changing the Chassepot over to an 11mm metalic cartridge. Rifles produced after the conversion was developed looked like a Chassepot outwardly but were built from the gitgo to accept the metallic cartridge. The rifles took on the name of the conversion process developer.
The bayonet for the Chassepot was a yataghan style sword bayonet. The "new-style" bayonet, the T-back posted, came out around the same time as Gras rifle production began. Both bayonets have assumed the names of the rifles with which they were primarily issued. Allegedly, a Chassepot bayonet will fit a Gras rifle and vice versa, although some folks have reported difficulties in doing so. Probably due to when the particular rifle and bayonet being mated were made.
Since it has a date on the spine, it was produced for the French government/military.
Commercial production, i.e., export, versions have the manufacturer engraved n the spine, but not a date.
The 1874 Gras rifle was a converted 1866 Chassepot rifle. The Chassepot rifle fired a paper cartridge w/ an 11mm projectile.
A conversion was developed by Colonel Basile Gras for changing the Chassepot over to an 11mm metalic cartridge. Rifles produced after the conversion was developed looked like a Chassepot outwardly but were built from the gitgo to accept the metallic cartridge. The rifles took on the name of the conversion process developer.
The bayonet for the Chassepot was a yataghan style sword bayonet. The "new-style" bayonet, the T-back posted, came out around the same time as Gras rifle production began. Both bayonets have assumed the names of the rifles with which they were primarily issued. Allegedly, a Chassepot bayonet will fit a Gras rifle and vice versa, although some folks have reported difficulties in doing so. Probably due to when the particular rifle and bayonet being mated were made.