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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:26 pm 
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I just purchased a Robert David Laguiole knife and have a question about releasing the locked-open blade to close it. Is there a preferred way to close the blade? There isn't a release point like on a frame-lock. The only way I can figure out how to the blade is just by pushing is closed. Will this method damage the back sline of the knife? It is a beautiful knife. I told my wifde that it is too nice looking to use.

Also, is there a way to tell if the knife is authentic or a copy. The tang has "12C 27" and "France" and the blade has "LAGUIOLE R. David"

Thanks for your help.


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DocRon wrote:
I just purchased a Robert David Laguiole knife and have a question about releasing the locked-open blade to close it. Is there a preferred way to close the blade? There isn't a release point like on a frame-lock. The only way I can figure out how to the blade is just by pushing is closed. Will this method damage the back sline of the knife? It is a beautiful knife. I told my wifde that it is too nice looking to use.

Also, is there a way to tell if the knife is authentic or a copy. The tang has "12C 27" and "France" and the blade has "LAGUIOLE R. David"

Thanks for your help.


About all I can tell you is that 12C27 is the stainless steel used from Sandvik. Others can tell you more about the knife. The steel is a moderate Carbon somewhat similar to 420 SS but I hear edge retenion is better. I hear good things about Laguiole knives but I have never owned one. It is on my long list however. ::tu::

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:06 pm 
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A couple pictures might help. ::nod::
But, until then, try this link.....

http://www.worldknives.com/regions/france-2.html

...scroll down almost to the bottom, and you'll see a nice string of Robert David knives. Maybe one of them is like yours? Most of these knives are slip joints and have no locking mechanism. Just carefully done blade pressure against the backspring. This sounds like it might be the case with your knife.

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Bill and Hukk,

Thanks for the replies. I actually purchased the knife from World Knives via ebay, but hadn't seen their website. My knife is listed on their site, so, it appears to be authentic. Now I'll need to save up for one with a corkscrew. :wink: Thanks.

Ron


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Robert David is a well know trademark : specially for laguiole. 12C27 is a steel often use in france for knives.
this knives are not slipjoint but "cran forcé" (sorry i'm unable to translate this :oops: ) : there is a strong point before you can close the blade.
be careful when you close the blade : often with closing the blade chock the spring - this a well know defect for laguiole (due to design)

official site for Robert David : http://www.coutellerie-thiers.com/annua ... IdModele=1


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Laguioles often come with no lock and hard springs, though I have seen a few lockbacks somewhere on the web, seem like modernized traditonal style.

Here's a picture of one of my Laguioles, I pressed in a small piece of wood to prevent the blade from hitting the spring when closed (something that I had seen in Spanish navajas).

Luis

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Stancaiman and Don Luis,

Thank you for your helpful replies. I never expected to get responses from France and Mexico. Thanks again.

Ron


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YUP PERS is sure is nice to have the inter net in your own home.

It's a small word now.

Thanks for jumpping in Stancaiman and Don Luis.

I to learned from you both.... ::nod::

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Don Luis wrote:
Laguioles often come with no lock and hard springs,

traditional Laguioles never come with lock (liner, pump, or other), it's only a hard springs ::nod::


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I'm quite sure you are correct about the TRADITIONAL style knives. ::nod::

But, in keeping with today's world, even Robert David makes a locking knife...

http://www.worldknives.com/products/rob ... ebed27aa95

...and many new folks don't know the history or legend around a traditional Laguiole style of knife, and may happen upon one like this. I, like Don Luis, have seen this type while browsing for Lagioule knives.

We just try to cover all the angles here. ::nod:: :lol:

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yes, i know but it's not a Laguiole (i mean a real Laguiole) :D


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here are some pics of my Laguiole corkscrew knife in natural bone. I purchased it from http://www.laguiole-southwest.com
I will quote the paperwork that came with it:
"The Laguiole originated as a herdsman knife and is a blend of Spanish and French craft influences. Knives in this style were first produced commercially by Pierre Jean Calmels in 1829. Corkscrews were added to the knives about 1880 when the distribution of wine in bottles, rather than in barrels became popular."
I think they are wonderful knives, great ballance and very functional when traveling thru the countryside sampling local fare.


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very nice your Fontenille
Calmels allready exist but they are now build in Thiers. I have one - i will post pictures


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a Calmels Laguiole picture (buy 25 years ago at Laguiole)

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Just read this post for the first time, this morning - Ok, I'm slow, but I'm old...

Paul M has a very interesting point (no pun intended), regarding the balance of a folding knife. Balance is a large issue/concern with fixed blades, as we all know - but I've wondered about the balance of folders, for years now...

How do ya'll measure the balance of your pocketknives ? I mean - I can tell what "feels good" in my hand, but I've never really figured out the "why". To me, it's nearly impossible to balance a multi-blade knife, but I do own a couple that are great, with one blade open. Really can't describe it...

One detail that HAS occured to me - regarding a traditional slip joint (fr'instance, a stockman pattern)... if I set the knife, on a table, resting on the springs - if the knife will "spin" effortlessly, it always seems to be a knife that feels good, when I'm using it ? I've never found a multi-blade jack, that will do that - although most any jack is appealing, to me.

I may not be putting into words, exactly what I mean... just wondering how you fellers guage the balance of your folding knives ?

Thanks,
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