Tang Stamps Charts

[jerryd6818]

Woo hoo baby. I've never seen either one of them. Two new tang stamp charts. It's a good day on AAPK.

[Cutty]

Yeah, thanks for that Dale. Saved with all the others

[orvet]

Here is another bunch of Imperial tang stamps that may vary slightly from those posted earlier.
I believe these were originally posted by LT, (Rich Langston).

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Just so you can reference them all in one place I added the earlier list-

[orvet]

Here is some info on related knife companies: Remington & Pal.

The Pal info I found posted in a thread. It appears to be from Sargents #3.

[treefarmer]

This is some great stuff, had I only read it earlier, I might not have had to bother y'all with my Kabar questions . I've been making hard copies of these charts for several years but this is a lot easier to find .
Thanks Gentlemen!
Treefarmer

[junebug]

GREAT THREAD! THIS SHOULD BE A STICKY

i have alot that are posted....like dale said SOME MAY DIFFER from those show.....i will post them if i see any that VARY, FOR REFERENCE


HERE IS ONE NOT POSTED YET.........

COLONIAL

[junebug]

some more BOKER........sorry if some was already posted

[junebug]

BUCK
has some same and some added info, to already posted chart.

[junebug]

IMPERIAL
PATENT NUMBER "APPLIED" FOR DATE & "GRANTED" DATES ....and a lil side info

[junebug]

REMINGTON

again some same as posted.....some different/new info in this chart

oh SNAP NO DATES IN THAT CHART

[junebug]

SCHRADE

[junebug]

UNION CUTLERY into KA-BAR years info.........

[junebug]

QUEEN ..............

[junebug]

CASE XX
SHEATH KNIVES AKA FIXED BLADES

[junebug]

CASE XX

[orvet]

It has been suggested that I make this a sticky. I think it is a good idea.
I also moved it to the Q & A forum as it seems to belong here more than in the General Forum.

[junebug]

WOOOOOOOT
THANKS ,DALE

[bernynhel]

While Goins' is a handy reference, regarding Hammer Brand, they only mention that Imperial purchased the brand for use with their shell-type handled knives which, to me, suggests that all Imperial/Hammer Brand knives will have shell-type handled knives and that any Hammer Brand knife with solid handles/bolsters is a NYKCo made knife (Goin's Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings ©1998, p.118., "Hammer Brand c. 1936 - present A trademark used by Imperial. Knives with this mark are of the shell-handle type."). Nothing under Goins' Imperial or New York Knife Co listings says anything different. No distinctions between the various Hammer Brand tang stamps to distinguish Imperial from NYKCo or anything else of much use so this thread is a good idea although I also think that tang stamp charts would be useful as sticky posts at the top of each specific knife company section of this forum. BTW, Price/Zalesky has the same info regarding Hammer Brand as Goins'. I might also add that, IMHO, Goins' use of the sentence "This company manufactured "Bowie" type knives, among other kinds of cutlery." may not, in reality, apply to as many knife companies as Goins' suggests by tacking that sentence on to the end of various knife company listings. Has anyone seen a Holtzapffel Bowie? Thanks for all the great tang stamp posts. - Bill

[mickeyevans]

this is a great thread, thanks Jerry for all your work collecting and sharing reference material all the time
how do I book mark a post?

[mickeyevans]

never mind, I found the button to bookmark it and I did, now I need to find my bookmarks
oh yeah, user control panel, then manage book marks, I needed to know this
thanks again to all, this forum is better than all the books I have, I am still learning to use it and read all the threads going back years
should have done that before buying knives but I could not wait, ha ha

[junebug]

WE WANT TANG STAMP CHART INFO................ CHAT ROOM IS OVER THERE >>>>>>>

[junebug]

some ULSTER charts/info..............


the charts with tang pics and not just writing are way better IMO...but these DO HELP.

[orvet]

I might also add that, IMHO, Goins' use of the sentence "This company manufactured "Bowie" type knives, among other kinds of cutlery." may not, in reality, apply to as many knife companies as Goins' suggests by tacking that sentence on to the end of various knife company listings. Has anyone seen a Holtzapffel Bowie? Thanks for all the great tang stamp posts. - Bill

Bill,
Great point!
I have pondered on that very term and his use of it.
I think Goins is using the term "Bowie type knives" to mean fixed blade knives.
That is about the only way it really makes sense. Or else he had a different meaning for that phrase that he never bothered to share with his readers.

John Goins was very good at cataloging information about knives and knife companies, however the study of knife companies is very broad field of study with hundreds of companies (in the USA alone), tens of thousands products and millions of details to go along with them. It would be impossible for one person to know everything about each company and each product they produced in the USA in the last century, let alone in other countries and before 1900. There is just too much information for one person to know it all. I don’t know of any knife expert who even claims to know most of it.

I do believe John Goins’ “Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings” is a great reference work and I use it nearly every day, often multiple times per day. But I also keep in mind that the scope of cutlery history has changed since that book was published 16 years ago. Apart from new companies, there has been more discovered & more history written about the old companies.

[Old Hunter]

Hey Bug - thanks for the Ulster info - it seems to be rare! OH

[bernynhel]

I might also add that, IMHO, Goins' use of the sentence "This company manufactured "Bowie" type knives, among other kinds of cutlery." may not, in reality, apply to as many knife companies as Goins' suggests by tacking that sentence on to the end of various knife company listings. Has anyone seen a Holtzapffel Bowie? Thanks for all the great tang stamp posts. - Bill

Bill,
Great point!
I have pondered on that very term and his use of it.
I think Goins is using the term "Bowie type knives" to mean fixed blade knives.
That is about the only way it really makes sense. Or else he had a different meaning for that phrase that he never bothered to share with his readers....

I hadnt thought of that - I thought that maybe they used it kind of arbitrarily on listings to break up the listings that only list the marking and the dates of use to add pages to the edition since I found several listings that cite dates of use prior to 1834 with that tag so couldnt possibly have been making "Bowie" type knives. Though by 1850 Sheffield makers were cranking out Bowie knives hot and heavy. I use Goins' multiple times daily also and use the info in my knife listings and have been accused of misrepresenting knives I sell on eBay on occasion as a result.