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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:26 pm 
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i got this large lockback hunter off of ebay i have seen lot of these big knives but have not seen any with a bail this one has a bail and i believe this to be original to the knife. what ya think on it


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:24 pm 
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Just a guess here, but I don't think that the bail is original to the kinfe, based on the type, and size of bail and the fact that the holes are drilled all the way through the caps and the frame.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:34 pm 
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I agree with TJ. I think the bail is too small for such a large knife.
I would be surprised if that was an original bail.
I wonder if a knife like that ever had a bail.
Nice knife though.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:40 pm 
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i dont remember seeing one on these big knives maybe someone with catalog will let us know


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:17 am 
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I cannot speak to the originality of that particular bail on that particular knife.

But, there are numerous brands of these large coke bottle folding hunters that have a drilled bolster like that.

What purpse would the holes have served, if not for a bail? They are too small for a lanyard.

And, I can tell you for certain that a box of 1/2 dozen Robeson 118 5" folding hunters came with six loose bails in the box. The bail could be added to the knife at the time of purchase at the buyer's request.

So, yes, some, but most likely not all, these knives did come with bails.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:24 am 
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Would it have been the norm to drill completely through the caps and frame though.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:25 am 
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i don't have any large cokes with bails and charlie is right to say they are on some. but i do have to agree with tj and frj when i say that the bail looks too small for such a big frame. like a car going down the road with the doughnut tire on it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:43 am 
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like i said the hole is very small anything much bigger wont fit


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:56 am 
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Great looking knife!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:49 pm 
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I would have to agree with everyone here. I do have a NYKC Hunter like that, IMO there is no way a bail of that size would handle a knife of this size. This knife is much more in the hand than the pictures appear, its a big one.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:06 pm 
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if it is the wrong one it still was worth the $ it had on it for buy it now


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:12 pm 
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I know what you paid from our talk in chat......WOW!!
I surmised in chat that the bail might be original........sorry bout that.
Looks like the overwhelming consensus is that its been added.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:38 pm 
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well if you think it served purpose of hanging or tying cord to. But i cant believe it would be for that as the knife is large, not sure what the function is for it though with it being that small but if i keep looking at it. it will come to me its simple logic for it. knife that size would of been a good candidate for a sheath . so bail is for other function than that of say boy scout or t-29 type or watch fob knife.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:50 pm 
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Looks to be an "add your own bail," cato! ::nod:: ::tu::
VERY nice knife!

This is from the 1902 Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett catalog.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:09 pm 
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joe i saw the exact knife today at the lewisburg knife show. it had the hole but no bail. and it looked as if that hole never did see a bail either. the knife was in fairly good shape, the seller was asking $325 for it. i didn't even want to try and bargain a price. i was on the lookout for easy opens. snagged 4 of them. 2 robesons, a keen kutter and a pal.


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