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Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:25 pm
by birddogonyx
I have recently come across this knife, and am interested in selling, but I have no idea of it's value. I understand that ebay is not possible due to the offensive nature of the knife, so I am wondering where I may sell it as well.
Thanks for any help.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:15 pm
by basser5
how much are you asking for it?

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:02 pm
by birddogonyx
The reason for the post is that I don't know what it is worth, so right now I can't answer your question.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:44 pm
by robinetn
birddogonyx wrote:The reason for the post is that I don't know what it is worth, so right now I can't answer your question.
You won't find this knife in any price reference books , therefore , it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it . If you can't determine a fair price based on your purchase price + a reasonable mark-up for profit , maybe you should put it up for auction on AAPK on Thursday night or list it on AAPK's Knife-Auction.com .

Bob R. (RIDGEWOOD CUTLERY)

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:23 pm
by gino
You could sell it here but you have to give a price. My advice would be to to do as Bob said or take offers for a few days and sell it to the highest one. It is a interesting knife to the right person but you dont have a goldmine.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:06 pm
by birddogonyx
I didn't really think I had a gold mine, but since this isn't my business field I thought someone may know more than me about this knife. I may have been wrong. Everything is worth what someone is willing to pay. If anyone wanted to make an offer, I would consider it if fair.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:41 pm
by arathol
I understand that ebay is not possible due to the offensive nature of the knife
Why? Did you ask? There is a lot of KKK stuff sold regularly on Ebay. Genuine vintage KKK stuff is quite collectible it seems.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:54 pm
by Roush428r
Those are generally classified as novelty knives, must like the fake Hitler folders. I've probably sold 20 over the years and usually ask about ten bucks.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:38 am
by birddogonyx
Roush428r wrote:Those are generally classified as novelty knives, must like the fake Hitler folders. I've probably sold 20 over the years and usually ask about ten bucks.
Guess I was hoping more like $50-$60 was the market. For $10 I'll throw it in my tackle box along with my Japanese made fake Hitler folders. Or to be more truthful, maybe I will put it on ebay and see if it gets pulled off.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:30 pm
by keithw
BirdDog,

Hy Kaufman & Sons were the makers of the Buck Creek knives of the 70's.
You don't see a lot of those, so I would certainly put its value higher than $10.
I bought one exactly like yours a few months ago from a member here at AAPK.
I think I paid around $30 for it.
Look at the link for the Thursday knife auctions here, it doesn't cost anything to
put something up, and you can place a min. bid on it, so you really can't lose.

Good luck,
Keith

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:19 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
I'm reasonably sure I'm accurate with this information.

I recall seeing almost an entire eight foot table covered with boxes of these knives at a knife show in the past, most likely in the 1990's. I'm not talking about a box of 1/2 doz. knives. The boxes were as large or larger than a block of .22 cal ammunition. And, the boxes were stacked three high in some places.

Some of the knives were single blade Barlows, like yours. Others were two blade Barlows and some were two blade trapper patterns.

There had to have been hundreds of each pattern on the table.

My recollection is the table belonged to Jim Parker. If not, it was right next to his tables.

I guess my point is that whatever they are, they are not rare.

You could get by selling it on Ebay if you aren't really blatant about the KKK connection. List the knife and let your photos do most of the talking.

Ebay does have a policy against KKK items, as well as Nazi memorabilia.

They also forbid switchblades with a blade over three inches, but such knives sell regularly on Ebay. They just aren't listed as switchblades. Certain code words or phrases are used and the photos show everything about the knives except the activating button.

Charlie Noyes

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:29 pm
by keithw
Charlie,

I stand corrected. I was just going by the fact that I rarely see anything marked Kaufman.
But, if there was that many in one place, they can't be too hard to find.
It wouldn't be the first time that I've overpaid for a knife,
and if I live until tomorrow, it won't be the last. ::nod::

Thanks for the info,
Keith

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:43 pm
by Classic Case
'95 PKCS catalog.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:21 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Based on that ad from the Parker Knife Collector Service, I think I might have been wrong about there being a trapper pattern. Maybe, they were all Barlows, as shown in the catalog.

Keith, at that show (I think it was a Blade Show)they were attempting to sell as many of those boxes of knives in bulk sales as they could. They were not really interested in single sales. I think the flea marketeers and trade day knife men were picking them up for not a whole lot of money. They, in turn, probably did pretty well with them in certain areas........
Charlie Noyes

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:32 pm
by Paladin
I have a trapper pattern but it was made by Frost. I'd guess that the KKK stuff was put on aftermarket.

Ray

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:06 pm
by Miller Bro's
About 15 years ago I had a chance to buy an authentic 1930`s era pocket knife with clear celluloid handles. Under the handles were KKK code, on one side it asked if you were a KKK member. The idea was the owner would set the knife down on a table if you were having coffee etc. in a public place. If you turned the knife over without saying anything, you were a member. The other side in code said I am a KKK member.

I believe the knife was made by either G.R.C. or Novelty Cut. Co. the dealer was asking too much for it, and I don`t like celluloid, so I passed on buying it.

Never seen another one quite like it, probably shoulda bought it :lol:

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:18 pm
by poelten
is this knife still for sale?
best regards,
Rene

birddogonyx wrote:I have recently come across this knife, and am interested in selling, but I have no idea of it's value. I understand that ebay is not possible due to the offensive nature of the knife, so I am wondering where I may sell it as well.
Thanks for any help.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:52 pm
by birddogonyx
poelten wrote:is this knife still for sale?
best regards,
Rene

birddogonyx wrote:I have recently come across this knife, and am interested in selling, but I have no idea of it's value. I understand that ebay is not possible due to the offensive nature of the knife, so I am wondering where I may sell it as well.
Thanks for any help.
Sorry. Sold.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:06 pm
by backlip
Anyone have info on this knife? Looks like the text was simply put on after the knife was made. I’m sure they did this to many knives.

I do not share the views represented by such a group. That should go without saying.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:47 pm
by backlip
Also, not interested in keeping this (it was inherited) so looking to sell.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:26 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
I don’t recognize the shield.

German made, though.

And the etch could have been done at the factory or aftermarket.

No idea on value.

I used to have an application for membership in that organization.

It was given to my paternal grandfather at work.

He never filled it out nor return it.

It was bizarre and the penalties suggested for violating the code of the order were severe.

I had it framed, along with about a dozen Hot Rod Magazine centerfolds, but that all disappeared sometime while I was in Service.

I suspect Mom cleaned house.

And no, I have no respect or admiration for anything or anyone ever associated with them.

Re: Solingen pocket knife with KKK

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:47 am
by backlip
Thanks for sharing that. Looks etched aftermarket. Honestly, a really nice Solingen folder otherwise.