UTICA !!!

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UTICA !!!

Postby OLDSMOKE » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:18 am

Can anyone tell me anything about this company, I dont see very many of them around, I have one that my Grandad carried for many years.
It has a busted scale and I am in the process of fixxing it but the break is in a very strange shape, thanks ahead of time for any and all you guys effort.
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby galvanic1882 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:21 pm

Hi OLDSMOKE, There are a few knife collectors that think Utica only made cheap knives. Matter of fact most do. That is not the case at all. They made some of the best looking and working knives ever by an American company, so much so that they made knives for many other knife companies and hardware suppliers. In the 1980's a group of men from the south bought what was called the Utica Factory collection of knives that were on display in what was at one time the Presidents office of the company. Those knives were some of the finest knives ever made with some fantastic handles of exotic pearls, horn, bone stag and celluloid. The beauty and workmanship of those knives, many of which were made before 1937, cannot be appreciated till you hold one in your hand an open and close the blades. I know this because I have about 12 from that coillection and they are just fantastic.

I have attached some pictures of them.

The knife you have is what I like to call an old warrior so treat it kindly it comes from good stock.
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby El Lobo » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:25 pm

Great stuff!! ::tu:: ::tu::

Those are some real beauties Mr. Galvanic sir! ::drool:: ::drool::

Utica lives on today as KutMaster...sort of ironic I guess... ::undecided::

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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby galvanic1882 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:29 pm

Thanks El Lobo

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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby upnorth » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:35 pm

That is a wonderful collection of old Uticas, galvanic! You are a lucky man!!
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby OLDSMOKE » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:21 pm

I must agree with the others, I dont suppose you would like to turn lose of the bottom one in the top picture, that is just what cranks my handle up.!!!
Thank You for shareing with us.
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby Jacknifeben » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:40 pm

1882, any idea about what year this was made?
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby galvanic1882 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:39 am

First let me say that is one sweet looking knife, love the etch!!!!

It has always been thought that the Utica curved stamp was used before 1937. Knife World will be doing an article soon telling more about the stamps and trying to date them better. I would google the name that is etched to see when they were in business which might narrow it down some.

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Postby RobesonsRme.com » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:19 pm

A likely candidate would be A. H. Harris and Sons, distributors of various building supplies, founded in 1916 in New Britain, CT. Now, they have centers all over the NorthEast.
At one time, they used "HAR - MAC" as a logo.

I see those objects at the ends of the blade etch as stylized evergreen trees, a source for building supplies.

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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby Jacknifeben » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:34 am

I found out from the original owner of this knife that it came from a hardware chain called HARPER & MACINTIRE with a warehouse in OTTUMWA IOWA.

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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby tjmurphy » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:42 am

Hmmm. May have belonged to Radar O'Riley
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby orvet » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:46 am

There is a very good article on Utica by Mark Zalesky in the September 2010 issue of Knife World.

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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby edgy46 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:53 pm

I read the article in Knife World Friday night, great read. Saturday I went out on my weekly search/sell/trade/buy adventure. First stop was a bust.Second stop I found a 3 15/16 Kutmaster stockman. Traded for it, then went home. Unusual (to me) the handles have hammered pins and the center pin is spun. Greenish brown bone handles. My pictures are not the best, but here they are. I have a question. Is this rogers bone?
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby Miller Bro's » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:16 pm

edgy46 wrote:Is this rogers bone?


It was sold by the Rogers company, what exactly they called it is unknown to me.
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Re: UTICA !!!

Postby orvet » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:10 pm

The company that made Rogers Bone was Rogers Mfg. Co. of Rockfall, CT. They made bone fertilizer and other bone items as early as 1891. They started making bone knife handles about 1900. About WWI, they traded their fertilizer operation to Rogers & Hibbard for Rogers & Hibbard’s bone products business, including their bone handle making business. From then on Rogers Mfg. Co. was the biggest manufacturer of bone products in the USA, They also made toothbrush handles, combs, baby pacifiers, and bits for corncob pipes.

The Rogers Mfg. Co. name for what we today call “Rogers Bone” was believe it or not “Rogers Stag.” They made small quantities of other jigging styles as well.

Rogers Mfg. Co. stopped selling bone knife handles in 1962. As you might imagine the plastics industry had pretty much eliminated the need for many of their bone products. When was the last time you went to the store and bought a new toothbrush with a bone handle, or a bone comb or baby pacifier?

*Info gleaned from an article by Bernard Levine. Knife World, November 1987.

Below are some examples of what I have heard called Rogers Bone.
You will note considerable difference in depth of jigging, which makes some patterns appear to be different from others. Keep in mind that these are all 50+ years old, some closer to 75+ years old. A lot of pocket wear can take place in that length of time. I believe this accounts for the different appearance of the bone.

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