Not Necessarily A Knife

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:14 am

I like collecting old knife related items as well as the knives that we are all familiar with. Back in the day some knife companies manufactured other items in their factory, not just pocket knives. Finding these items is not easy, one reason is probably because early pocket knife collectors were mainly only interested in just finding the knives not much else was being sought at that time.

I would like to see in this thread any items you may have that has a knife companies name on it, such as a pair of scissors, gun, tool, etc. Also any items or tools that were used by old knife factories.

I will start out with a mystery item, I have now identified it, but I will let you try and guess what it is. It was made in the John Russell factory in Turners Falls Mass. in the 1920`s I believe.

Owd Wullie · Post by **Owd Wullie** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:32 am

Looks like a glass cutter of some type to me.

FRJ · Post by **FRJ** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:02 am

I'm going to guess it's for cutting sheet metal.

chautauqua · Post by **chautauqua** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:25 am

ceramic tile cutter

sextonknifeworks · Post by **sextonknifeworks** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:39 am

Is it a feeler gauge?

philco · Post by **philco** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:53 am

Paperweight?

tjmurphy · Post by **tjmurphy** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:49 am

Sure look like glass cutter blades and since some are more recessed than others, I'd say for different thicknesses of glass.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:30 pm

There are definitely different depths to the wheels (which look like glass cutters).
The hole in the center is hexagonal which likely means it could go on a shaft, but they do not want it to spin on the shaft. By turning the shaft on which Dimitri’s mystery item is mounted 60 degrees at a time, it would move the cuter from one cutter to the next, and could produce a progressively deeper scoring in thick glass.
I have cut a little glass and I know you can’t cut too deep at one time.

I suspect this is a cutter that mounts somehow, perhaps on a shaft, to cut heavy glass, maybe in sheets or glass that is being turned somehow in the manufacturing process.
That's my best guess.

knife7knut · Post by **knife7knut** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:56 pm

Definitely for scoring glass.I bought a tool for my wife(who does stained glass work)that was used for cutting large diameter circles in glass.It had an adjustable beam to set the radius and a device similar to the illustrated one mounted on the outboard edge of the beam.This one allowed you to change wheels without disturbing the setting if one became dulled.I'll have to dig it out and post a picture.

Joe Dirt · Post by **Joe Dirt** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:12 pm

The tool is clearly index-able with "cutters" (inserts) of progressive depth. It is similar to glass cutting tools, but I haven't seen many glass knives.

Was it "drawn" against bone or second cut stag to jig the grip?

.... Joe

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:59 pm

It is a Glass Cutter! So all you guys that guessed it, pat yourselves on the back

Here is the 1889 Alex Rowland patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ulRGAA ... &q&f=false

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ulRGAA ... 284&edge=0

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ulRGAA ... 266&edge=0

ObsidianEdge · Post by **ObsidianEdge** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:42 pm

Made by Will & Finck, and most likely the only thing I'll ever own made by that company given how much the knives go for. I guess I could try for one of those lime squeezers that show up occasionally on an online auction site.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 pm

Mike that is

Thanks for showing it

Here are some other cutlery related items that belong in this thread

Pocket knife handle Dies and cutlery price pins............

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:06 pm

great stuff guys !

FRJ · Post by **FRJ** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 pm

ObsidianEdge wrote:Made by Will & Finck, and most likely the only thing I'll ever own made by that company given how much the knives go for. I guess I could try for one of those lime squeezers that show up occasionally on an online auction site.

ObsidianEdge, would that be for pulling leather?

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 pm

Very nice Paul

I know there are more of you out there that have this stuff

Let`s see it!!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:31 am

I have posted these elsewhere but it was 2 or 3 years ago.
These are things from the Camillus 100th Anniversary, courtesy of Dennis Ellingsen of the OKCA.

This is a repair bag used at the Camillus factory. Courtesy of Tom Williams (CAMCO).
The repair could be kept in the bag/envelop and shipped back to the customer in the same bag.
The bag is attached to the envelop.

Either Dennis of Tom gave this patch.
Sorry, I don’t remember which one gave it to me.

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:46 am

Wow Dale love that kind of stuff

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:18 pm

Nice stuff Dale

I really like that cloth bag

TripleF · Post by **TripleF** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:41 am

Vintage Schrade patch:

galvanic1882 · Post by **galvanic1882** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:18 pm

I have a couple of items that are a bit odd and will start with this "THING" marked The Cronk & Carrier Mfg Co, Hardware specialties, Elmira NY and on the side of that is marked Pat'd with a date and then LITTLE GIANT. Can anyone guess what it is??

galvanic1882 · Post by **galvanic1882** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:10 pm

Maybe I got you all stumped on this one?? I will post another but would love to hear some guesses on the Cronk item.

Here is a Canastota box with a nut pick, the handle is bone.

galvanic1882 · Post by **galvanic1882** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:15 pm

OK no one even tried to guess what the Cronk & Carrier item was!!

It is a check or signature protector made to prevent people from forging checks or signatures!!

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:37 am

Mike,

Never would have guessed that. How exactly does it work?

Here is an old 1903 ad from the company..............

cattaraugus57 · Post by **cattaraugus57** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:44 am

All Great stuff guys, Paulsvintage,Love that Catt ribbon,I was trying to win that one myself..!

And Millerbros...man you drive me nuts with those Catt Buttons!!!!!

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