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Thanks knife7knut,
My father referred to it as the Mountain Man Knife. I don't know when the knife was made. The belt and sheath came with it. The leather sheath fits so tight that it is actually cutting through the leather so you have to be careful when removing or placing the knife back into the sheath.
Fun Fact....
Mitt Romney’s great, great grand father Parley Pratt was murdered in 1857 by the estranged husband of his twelfth wife. His murder was a contributing factor to events leading up to the Mountain Meadows massacre a few months later. In September 11, 1857 the Mormons killed 120 people from the Baker–Fancher party who were traveling to Southern California along the Mormon Road (a portion of the Old Spanish Trail). Parley Pratt had a total of 30 children, and his living descendants in 2011 were estimated to number 30,000 to 50,000.
My father referred to it as the Mountain Man Knife. I don't know when the knife was made. The belt and sheath came with it. The leather sheath fits so tight that it is actually cutting through the leather so you have to be careful when removing or placing the knife back into the sheath.
Fun Fact....
Mitt Romney’s great, great grand father Parley Pratt was murdered in 1857 by the estranged husband of his twelfth wife. His murder was a contributing factor to events leading up to the Mountain Meadows massacre a few months later. In September 11, 1857 the Mormons killed 120 people from the Baker–Fancher party who were traveling to Southern California along the Mormon Road (a portion of the Old Spanish Trail). Parley Pratt had a total of 30 children, and his living descendants in 2011 were estimated to number 30,000 to 50,000.
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Had this in q and a when i got it, the knife is fine, guess they put it up when the handles got broke..
which helped it stay in the shape it is, fine example of a rare model, Plus it being with rare handle material.
i washed it and done a little bone repair. I looked in what few outdated books i have and none, mentioned
this bone on this model
CASE AND SON
BRADFORD PA
MODEL# 61049
SCALES= RED WINTERBOTTOM
which helped it stay in the shape it is, fine example of a rare model, Plus it being with rare handle material.
i washed it and done a little bone repair. I looked in what few outdated books i have and none, mentioned
this bone on this model
CASE AND SON
BRADFORD PA
MODEL# 61049
SCALES= RED WINTERBOTTOM
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Now that is awesome! I've never seen one like it!
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You're right Cates,that saber blade is awesome and in excellent condition.Very nice find.You get tired of that West Coast Camillus farmers jack,let me know.
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Here is one I got this week.
The only electrician's knife variant I have with a lock back.
The only electrician's knife variant I have with a lock back.
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Nice find Dale ¯¯¨˜"
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I found this one a few weeks ago and there is very little information and Goins just list their name which is R Groves & Sons Limited. I looked them up and found they were a manufacturer of Saws and a steel refiner. They started in 1770 and I know that they were still in business till at least 1879. The knife has Teacher 1830 on the Sterling Silver handle. This is a nice little knife for possibly being over 180 years old!
This enterprise was established in 1770 (according to their advertising and catalog cover) and was a well know producer of saws and steel refiner.
In the "Reminiscences of Old Sheffield, Its Streets and Its People" Robert Eadon Leader (1875), describes this outfit as "Steadfast to their old localities in Snow hill are Richard Groves & Sons, perhaps the oldest saw manufacturers in the town. Mr. Groves, the grandfather of the present firm, always had an open Bible before him on his work-board."
1828 - Sheffield Directory and Guide, (John Blackwell, Sheffield, England, 1828).
This enterprise was established in 1770 (according to their advertising and catalog cover) and was a well know producer of saws and steel refiner.
In the "Reminiscences of Old Sheffield, Its Streets and Its People" Robert Eadon Leader (1875), describes this outfit as "Steadfast to their old localities in Snow hill are Richard Groves & Sons, perhaps the oldest saw manufacturers in the town. Mr. Groves, the grandfather of the present firm, always had an open Bible before him on his work-board."
1828 - Sheffield Directory and Guide, (John Blackwell, Sheffield, England, 1828).
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Wow, that is an amazing knife. Thanks for showing it to us.
Carl B.
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COOL KNIFE!!!
GUESSING IT WAS MADE FOR: WM TEACHER & SONS
ESTABLISHED 1830
famous for TEACHER's HIGHLAND CREAM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As ... =yfp-t-243
GUESSING IT WAS MADE FOR: WM TEACHER & SONS
ESTABLISHED 1830
famous for TEACHER's HIGHLAND CREAM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As ... =yfp-t-243
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Junebug,junebug wrote:COOL KNIFE!!!
GUESSING IT WAS MADE FOR: WM TEACHER & SONS
ESTABLISHED 1830
famous for TEACHER's HIGHLAND CREAM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As ... =yfp-t-243
I guess that could be a definite possibility and it's more than I could find any links on which were 0! Thanks for the research! I love AAPK!!
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NO PROBLEMO..............
PRETTY SURE,IMPO THATS WHO IT WAS MADE FOR.
PRETTY SURE,IMPO THATS WHO IT WAS MADE FOR.
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Here is a little bit of spring in this picture. The last Morels of the season next to an Excelsior Knife Co. (straight line) easy opener.
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I agree! And so are the Morels.FRJ wrote:WOW!
Beachtree, that is a beauty.
Torrington?
Northfield?
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Thanks Joe. This is tough to say. It would seem to me that just do to the fact that Northfield used the Excelsior name for at least 22 years, while the Torrington firm was just present for four, I would imagine Northfield. But I really can not tell, maybe a straight line stamp indicates Torrington while a curved stamp (like Northfield Knife Co.s' common stamp) might indicate Northfield. Maybe at some point there will be a way to determine this.
Thanks OE, glad you like them both. It was a good year for these little edible treats. Maybe got about 15 or so.
Thanks OE, glad you like them both. It was a good year for these little edible treats. Maybe got about 15 or so.
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Here are a few that are hard to come by.
CLAY ANDOVER N.Y. U.S.A., Candy Stripe Pen 2 7/8" closed, c. 1911-1923, a Platts brothers founded company.
SHUMATE CUTLERY CORP. St. LOUIS U.S.A., Goldstone Lobster 2 5/8" closed, Shumate Razors are far easier to find than the knives. c. 1920-1932
ATTICA KNIFE Co. BOY OF AMERICA, Boy's knife, metal handles, 3 3/8" closed. Looks like the RUSSELL made counterpart except a 2 blade knife with long pull on the master. c. 1875-1900
S. L. WRIGHT LITTLE VALLEY N.Y., straight razor. Never seen or heard of this stamp before. Not in Goin's book or Levine's. Research turned up a Sydney Longstreth Wright, banker from Philadelphia PA., Aug. 4, Born 1852 Died Jun. 20, 1927. It seems possible that this individual could have had some razors made on contract or by midnight oil in the Case or Cattaraugus factories. Any info appreciated.
Wayne
CLAY ANDOVER N.Y. U.S.A., Candy Stripe Pen 2 7/8" closed, c. 1911-1923, a Platts brothers founded company.
SHUMATE CUTLERY CORP. St. LOUIS U.S.A., Goldstone Lobster 2 5/8" closed, Shumate Razors are far easier to find than the knives. c. 1920-1932
ATTICA KNIFE Co. BOY OF AMERICA, Boy's knife, metal handles, 3 3/8" closed. Looks like the RUSSELL made counterpart except a 2 blade knife with long pull on the master. c. 1875-1900
S. L. WRIGHT LITTLE VALLEY N.Y., straight razor. Never seen or heard of this stamp before. Not in Goin's book or Levine's. Research turned up a Sydney Longstreth Wright, banker from Philadelphia PA., Aug. 4, Born 1852 Died Jun. 20, 1927. It seems possible that this individual could have had some razors made on contract or by midnight oil in the Case or Cattaraugus factories. Any info appreciated.
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Those are great examples, Wayne.
Thanks for posting them!!
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Picked up this Crucible Knife Co. this week, as far as I know, only made from 1926 to 1929.
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Some great examples here of rare finds. Wayne, that candy stripe pen reminds me of a similar swell center candy stripe pen Case and Son's (with apostrophe) I have. That stamp, with apostrophe, only existed a few years.
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Old yes, rare maybe. Robeson Jack spear.
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.......beautiful old knife, Iman!!!!.......... ................
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Thanks for sharing these fellas, I appreciate it.
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W. Bingham CC Cleveland, out of business in '48 so it's at least that old. Don't know about rare.
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Ivoryman I'd say that one's been rehandled sometime in it's life.
Roger