Old and Obscure Brands

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I have came across a knife that i found interesting but i cant find any info on it. it is not per say a knife knife more a novelty. if someone could help i would appreciate it
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::tu:: nice old" EYE" brand novelty knife
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Eagleton co. A Solingen based manufacturer. According to my research, the tang stamp indicates 1890 production.
This knife is solid like the day it was made, though unfortunately one of its previous owners was enthusiastic using the grinder ::td::

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Hatch Cut Co. Buchanan, Mich. 1894-1895
Just a relic, but an old and rare one.
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edgy46, That an interesting old knife and the written info helps with the history, but what is the knife leaning on(2nd pic) that has the name Newington? Just curious. Treefarmer

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Interesting knife and intriguing history. Do you think his partner John Clauss, who bought out his interest in Elyria Shear Company, might be the founder of Clauss Cutlery of Fremont, OH?
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treefarmer wrote:edgy46, That an interesting old knife and the written info helps with the history, but what is the knife leaning on(2nd pic) that has the name Newington? Just curious. Treefarmer
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Good call Fran.
It belongs to my daughter, and it will drive her cat mad looking around for the bird. :)
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trail wrote:Interesting knife and intriguing history. Do you think his partner John Clauss, who bought out his interest in Elyria Shear Company, might be the founder of Clauss Cutlery of Fremont, OH?
Went back to the book and found this.
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Nice one Bill, I picked up my first Hatch a few weeks ago and posted it in another thread. Here it is. They are cool knives.
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::super_happy:: very nice Gino.......i'm always looking but never came up with one
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Here is one I got today from Bob R.
Wade Wingfield & Rothbottom
No.82 Tenter St. Sheffield

Blade Etch:
W.T. Hancock & Co.
308 High Holborn

A search of that name, shows they were a sporting gun dealer. There is one Birmingham gun, made for the trade with their name on it. Boothroyd lists them at that address with Watson from 1886 to 1890.
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WoW Bret! GREAT knife! ::tu::

Love those handles on that Wade! ::drool::

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Great knife, Bret.
Love that snakeskin stag and off-centered bar shield.

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Here's another for the list: LAFAYETTE CUTLERY CO. GERMANY. Easy-Open Jack. Knife is nothing more than a relic. Secondary blade ground away to nothing, handle split, no snap (blades are very stiff open and close, but a stamp we've not seen yet
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Cool old knife TJ!!!. Kinda reminds us that these old knives were not just pretties but tools meant to be used. ::tu:: Slim.
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::tu:: Brett & Tom nice additions to your collection
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Chapman Hand Forged 1915 - 1931
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This little tuxedo is from my "stamp collection."

Hilger & Sons Celebrate Cutlery c. 1858 - 1890 per Goins`.

Ivory handles to boot!

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Those English were a happy lot in the 19th Century.

Practically EVERYTHING with an edge was "celebrated" at one time another. ::dang::

Neat little knife and stamp. :mrgreen:
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::tu:: Joe, nice old tuxedo. the older the better
just found a Waltco saf-t sheath knife made in 1956 with original clipping from paper.
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Paul, very unusual handle color on that one. Most of them have a red plastic handle.

I have also seen ones with Gray colored handles ::nod::
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Dang.....were seeing some beautiful knives guys! Thank you for showing!

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Wester Bros. Germany c. 1919
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This little knife measures a hair over 2 inches in length and is a simple folded metal frame with a blade pinned in. Hard to believe it was worth serializing, registering, and offering a reward for its return, but those were older days.

The Thornton & Minor Clinic was formed in 1885 by two Kansas City doctors, and specialized in treating rectal and colonic disorders using non-surgical methods (so no, this knife probably never reamed out some poor guy's prostate). They moved several times into larger buildings and finally merged with the McCleary Clinic and Hospital in 1957 of Excelsior Springs, a town just outside of Kansas City. This hospital, known as McCleary-Thornton-Minor, finally closed in 1974. Since the knife handle is stamped Thornton & Minor, I think this dates it to before 1957 (more on the dating later).

There is plenty of information on the web about Thornton & Minor, here is one good site:

http://www.kchistory.org/cdm4/item_view ... OX=1&REC=8

Whitehead & Hoag was incorporated in Newark NJ in 1892 and saw rapid growth in the trade of supplying pins, buttons, badges, banners and other novelty items. The company was known for using celluloid as a medium, and no doubt many of their products have out-gassed away over the years, but there is still an active collectors interest in their products. At one time they were one of the biggest wholesalers of novelties in the world. They finally closed down in 1955. So that is the new latest date for my knife.

Here is one site with information on Whitehead & Hoag:

http://www.nehushtanantiques.com/whiteh ... _hoag.html

So who made that knife that Whitehead & Hoag sold to Thornton & Minor? Who else but their New Jersey neighbor, H. Boker & Co! Boker bought the Valley Forge Cutlery Co. of Newark in 1899. I found references to W. & H. stamped knives supplied by Boker from the late 1800s through the 1940s. I found no other references to a W. & H. supplier, so that leads me to believe my knife is one of these Bokers, from 1949 or earlier.

A lot of history in this little 2 inch knife...
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