Old and Obscure Brands

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Here you go Trail. It appears to be nickel silver, maybe coin silver? The scales are solid slabs. It is a tight well made knife, and I would guess Boker made it.
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Wow, that's a good looking knife. The big swedge and the hollow grinds make it exceptional. Pretty darn nice for a safety award.
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i have one . made by Robeson / shuredge......very well made knife
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Whitehead & Hoag didn't make pocket knives.... so Robeson must have made it on contract for them?
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Robeson might have made the W&H, but it's also possible the handles were produced or sold by an independent supplier to multiple cutleries.

I've seen those handles with even different branded blades.

The knives catch my eye on Ebay because of the Robeson connection, and all of them are not Robeson marked knives.

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I was hoping to hear from you on these knives.... Thanks for the information, Charlie! :)
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Anytime, Kathy.

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While this one surely isn't obscure, it is old and you hardly see them anymore. Hammer/ New York Knife Co. stamps on this Barlow with bone handles. 36' to 37' stamp.
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There are a few numbers I can make out on the back of the main, all I can make out is 20.
Anybody got any info on this?
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Love that bolster stamp on that NY barlow. ::tu::

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Thanks Paul, after havin so many of the shell knives under the Imperial/Hammer Brands, I thought it only fitting
to dig a little deeper into the history. ::nod::
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Nice find Perry! I love the New York Knife brand and that stamp on that georgious old Barlow! Here is another New England oldie. An old Waterville knife with what I think is one of the coolest swedges and one incredible snap! I`m soooooooo tempted to carry it! but havent researched it yet to see how old it is, etc etc.

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::super_happy:: Perry & Bob great old knives
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Thanks Paul! Man Bob, that's a sweet lookin older Jack! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod::
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paulsvintage wrote:::super_happy:: Perry & Bob great old knives
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Thanks so much Kathy. ::handshake::
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Thanks Paul, Perry and Kathy!(almost sounds like an old 1960`s band :lol: ) oh wait that was Peter, Paul and Mary....my bad :) This is such a great forum! and so many incredible knives being shown.....thnaks to all!

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This one is from when Case Tested XX made their knives where Christ lost his shoes in Pakistan ::hmm::
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:shock: ::dang:: :lol:

Anyone have info on a knife like this? It says "Real Shepherd Knife" on the blade and has a poor Sheffield England tang stamp. I love the old bone handles though. I could have sworn someone posted a picture of one over the last year but I did a search and got nothing back. Any info is appreciated! ::nod::

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This little knife turned up on ebay, blurry photo and the seller even admitted "blades have little rust on them", but the Coast tang stamp was something I didn't have, so I put in a low bid. In the end I was high bidder at $3.68 and pretty soon the knife was in hand. "Little rust" was an understatement, as there was active rust on the thing, so I dropped it in a bottle of mineral spirits and did some research. Turns out Coast Products of Portland OR is still in business, still selling knives, flashlights, lanterns and multi-tools. The company was started in 1919 and is run by the third generation of the founding family.

http://www.coastportland.com/files/Abou ... oducts.pdf

I didn't think it likely that they made their own knives, even in the early days, and was fully prepared to find a "Japan" stamp on the back on the tang. The new knives on their website have a distinctly "Made In China" look. However, what I found was a tang stamp Coast over Port USA on the main blade and patent over 3,317,996 on a secondary. A little light research turned up the following over at Blade Forum:

"According to the USPTO records, the patent number you quoted was issued to Antonio Paolantonio (Colonial) on May 9, 1967 for a knife bolster assembly. It was his answer to the Swinden patent owned by Schrade and allowed for solid bolsters to be press fit onto pocket knives rather than pierced and pinned in place." - Codger_64

I think that is good evidence that my Coast is a Colonial product. A lot of elbow grease got the rust off and left it nice and shiny. There is not much snap left and a fair amount of pitting on the main blade, but on the other hand it has three backsprings and an unusual stamp.
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Paul,
I used to buy from Coast Cutlery when I managed a cutlery store back in the 1980s.
Until 4 or 5 years ago I believe they were the US importer for Puma, (or maybe just the West Coast importer).

Many companies have made knives for Coast including Buck, Camillus & Schrade, IIRC.
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1967redrider wrote::shock: ::dang:: :lol:

Anyone have info on a knife like this? It says "Real Shepherd Knife" on the blade and has a poor Sheffield England tang stamp. I love the old bone handles though. I could have sworn someone posted a picture of one over the last year but I did a search and got nothing back. Any info is appreciated! ::nod::

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That is a rather rare etching for that sort of knife. Nearly all of them said Real Lambs Foot Knife. Nice find and in great shape too. Put it somewhere safe. Can you tell which Sheffield company made it?
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:) great knives guys always good to expand our growing list.
this week i found a Dittert & Co. ...1900-1930
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That looks like a top drawer piece Paul! Genuine tortoise is always a prize.
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Bret888 wrote:That looks like a top drawer piece Paul! Genuine tortoise is always a prize.
Brett, thanks :)
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Iron Hoarder wrote:
1967redrider wrote: Anyone have info on a knife like this? It says "Real Shepherd Knife" on the blade and has a poor Sheffield England tang stamp. I love the old bone handles though. I could have sworn someone posted a picture of one over the last year but I did a search and got nothing back. Any info is appreciated! ::nod::

That is a rather rare etching for that sort of knife. Nearly all of them said Real Lambs Foot Knife. Nice find and in great shape too. Put it somewhere safe. Can you tell which Sheffield company made it?
Iron, not a clue but how could I tell? The picture of the tang and the blade etch are all the markings there are. Do you know of any sites or reference books that I might be able to use? Thanks!
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