Knives Made Before The Year 1960

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:08 am

Pretty sure this is pre-WWI. The only sheepfoot HJ of any brand I have ever seen. Empire Winsted, with Alvord's patent number on the punch.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:41 am

That is an unusaul one!

Don`t hold back on them Empire`s now Charlie!

I remember owning a HJ with a sheepfoot master blade, I believe it was a Schrade?

I will have to look for it !

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 am

MILLER BRO`S wrote:That is an unusaul one!

Don`t hold back on them Empire`s now Charlie!

I remember owning a HJ with a sheepfoot master blade, I believe it was a Schrade?

I will have to look for it !

REALLY??? A Schrade???

edgy46 · Post by **edgy46** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:08 pm

An old empire witha tapered backspring and a seal cap bolster. (please correct me on the name of the bolster if i am wrong). The bolster looks to be part of the spring.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:00 am

edgy46 wrote:An old empire witha tapered backspring and a seal cap bolster. (please correct me on the name of the bolster if i am wrong). The bolster looks to be part of the spring.

Bill,

Nice old Empire

The end, or seal cap is not part of the backspring. Neither are the front bolsters.

These are seperate parts. On your knife the seal cap is on the head end of the knife, and the bolsters are on the opposite end, where the knife blade is pinned.

The bolsters are attached to the steel liners, the backspring is between these two liners.

All these individual parts are pinned together to form the knife.

M.B.

Hawke · Post by **Hawke** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:13 pm

Great Idea MB!
Well, Isnt there a rule about a "Mandatory Case Peanut" is such threads as this?

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:04 pm

Hawke wrote:Isnt there a rule about a "Mandatory Case Peanut" is such threads as this?

Yes there is!

A nice looking knife with unusual handles

Thanks for showing it

M.B.

knife7knut · Post by **knife7knut** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:04 pm

Here's a few of my,"made before 1960" knives.Actually quite a bit before then.
First is an Empire stag pen that has yet to be sharpened.One small handle crack.
Next is an I*XL whittler with unusual stag scales.
Next is an unmarked stag mini pruner.
Next is a Northfield UN-X-LED pen.
Next is a Remington/PAL transition knife.Pattern # is ink stamped.
Last is my favorite:A William Congreave quill knife with stag scales,birds-eye rivets,"silver steel"stamped on the blade and a small piece of bone riveted in the back to act as a blade stop.Circa 1840.

Owd Wullie · Post by **Owd Wullie** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:07 am

This is fun thread, GREAT knives guys!
Old Camillus jack with a snaggle toothed pen blade.

A cute little E.W. Howard with faux tortoise scales

A big ol Robeson Jumbo jack

An old puukko

A cool old Challenge jack with advertising on the back side.

A Robeson made advertising knife.

I guess that's enough to tie up anybody on dial up for a spell. Sorry.

knife7knut · Post by **knife7knut** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:28 am

Great stuff Wullie!I have an identical knife to that Howard but it has a different stamping;I'll have to dig it out and see what it is.4th knife from the right on pic 1.
Here is a picture I did up awhile ago.I wanted to see how many miniature knives I could fit on the area of a $20 bill.Managed to get 31 on it.All for now;got a paint job in the am.

Just Plain Dave · Post by **Just Plain Dave** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:41 pm

One heck of a picture!!! Some "to die for" on that $20!!!!

Owd Wullie · Post by **Owd Wullie** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:52 am

GREAT STOOF!!!

Here's an older Camillus EO jack with delrin scales.

Neat old Crucible that our ESTEEMED Charlie Noyes donated to my cause. THANKS AGAIN Charlie!!

It has a broken pen blade, but it still has CLASS!

Neat old ROBESON jack

Another interesting little ROBESON jack, look at the two shields. Charlie thinks it might be a post WWII knife made with the scales that were used during the war.

A cute little IROQUOIS

How about a 1950 Vincent Black Shadow. ain't a knife, but it is SHARP.

Sword Brand Scout with shrinking scales.

Crucible scout.

STAINLESS Challenge scout.

AND an overhauled Robeson Carpenter's Choice.

Just Plain Dave · Post by **Just Plain Dave** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:32 am

Now Wullie, Them first two and that yellow scout have SPEARS!

That EO we talked about in the other thread is a pretender.

Oh BTW, that Black Shadow is SHARP!

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:47 pm

Here is one of my favorite pre 60 that I own. A PAL Blade Co. I love this bone.

Just Plain Dave · Post by **Just Plain Dave** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:19 pm

That Pal is FINE in so many ways!!!

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:49 pm

Thanks David, PAL's are not highly collectible but they have a good history and their natural handles are some of the prettiest around in my opinion. Got my eye on another one (Bone Cattleman) here in Amarillo at an antique store, but the owner obviously thinks those scales are gold and not jigged cow bone! lol! It's been there for a year, however, and I work on him about once a month!

If I get it , I'll post it as well. Smoke

Owd Wullie · Post by **Owd Wullie** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:21 pm

Hey 'Smoke,

You ever make it down to Claude? Old Chester, has some neat stuff. He likes old watches most, but I bet he's got some blades there too. I ain't seen him or talked to him in about 10 years now. I guess he's still in bidness. His place is the old store right across from the courthouse on the main drag through town with the indian sittin in a rockin chair out front. His collection of stuff for sale is eclectic at best.

He's good folks.

RobesonsRme.com · Post by **RobesonsRme.com** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:58 pm

Jim Sargent included a section on PAL, with many photos, values, etc., in an edition of his
American Premium Guide to Knives & Razors.

I forget which edition, or if he ran it more than once. I have the book, as I have all his editions except the latest. I'll check it out if you like.

If you like PAL knives, it'd be a good book to own.

Charlie Noyes

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:47 am

Hey Wullie, I go through Claude from time to time but I never have stopped to browse or shop. Next time i'm through, I will check and see if he is still open and what all he's got.

Charlie, I've got Sargent's 6th edition but that is the only one I have. I don't remember a section on PAL but I haven't looked at it in a spell. I will have to get it out and see. Thanks, Kelley

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:26 pm

RobesonsRme.com wrote:Jim Sargent included a section on PAL, with many photos, values, etc., in an edition of his
American Premium Guide to Knives & Razors.

I forget which edition, or if he ran it more than once. I have the book, as I have all his editions except the latest. I'll check it out if you like.

If you like PAL knives, it'd be a good book to own.

Charlie Noyes

The section on PAL is in the 3rd and 4th Editions of Sargent's American Premium Guide To Knives & Razors. I don't know if it is in the 5th edition or not as I don't have that one.

Dale

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:44 am

1930`s Fairmount Cut. Co. pearl handle pen knife.

Just Plain Dave · Post by **Just Plain Dave** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:08 am

Noice! Looks like it just came out of the box!

Owd Wullie · Post by **Owd Wullie** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:24 am

Shapleigh Hardware DIAMOND EDGE stockman

Schatt & Morgan MOP

Union Cutlery, OLEAN MOP

CASE BRADFORD PA

Cattaraugus Cutlery, Little Valley, NY

testcase · Post by **testcase** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:21 pm

Oh, you said 1960..... These were made before 1860..... Found on the sunken steamship Arabia in the Missouri river

Here is a Boker Jack

An EC Simmons Cigar Jack

Owd Wullie · Post by **Owd Wullie** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:40 pm

testcase wrote:Oh, you said 1960..... These were made before 1860..... Found on the sunken steamship Arabia in the Missouri river

Steamboat Arabia knives.JPG

AMAZING!
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