The All Scout Knives Thread

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ronfish wrote:Do I have anything that you don't have 3 of?!! :)
Ron, that knife is the "holy grail" for me! Have been trying to find one for several years. I have bid on a couple on eBay but did not win. Can you post a few more pictures?

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A couple Challenge Cutlery silver and copper handle scouts .
Very similar to the Case Bradford except the back handle is reversed .
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Both of these are the Case Bradford version have brass liners and the long pull. Did the Case version come with silver liners at some point or was it the Challenge Cutlery version? The Challenge Cutlery version has a main blade with nail nick in lieu of the long pull. I am unsure of the correlation between Case and Challenge, perhaps there is a Schrade connection?

EDIT: I see that you have a Challenge version with long pull. Interesting, never seen one with the long pull.
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Yes I have seen and owned several case Bradford's with silver liners , one distinct difference was a shorter screwdriver and a slightly different can opener , a little harder to find variation .
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Mumbleypeg wrote:
ronfish wrote:Do I have anything that you don't have 3 of?!! :)
Ron, that knife is the "holy grail" for me! Have been trying to find one for several years. I have bid on a couple on eBay but did not win. Can you post a few more pictures?

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Here you are Ken:
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ronfish wrote:VERY impressive! You have me looking for the 2 blade artifacts now. :)
If you can find one 2 blade a year consider your self lucky ! :)
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One more for today , the not often seen Remington rs3333 scout with covered back springs .
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Thanks! The only Challenge version I have seen previously is pictured in Holbrook's book. Until now I wasn't aware there was a copper version. Anyone know how Challenge and Case both came to have essentially the same knife? I'm thinking maybe one of them made them all, e.g. probably Challenge made them for Case under contract? ::shrug:: or as Ron suggests, maybe someone else (like Schrade or Camillus) made them.

Thanks to both of you for the pictures. Now I have even more to look for! ::facepalm::

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Mumbleypeg wrote:Thanks! The only Challenge version I have seen previously is pictured in Holbrook's book. Until now I wasn't aware there was a copper version. Anyone know how Challenge and Case both came to have essentially the same knife? I'm thinking maybe one of them made them all, e.g. probably Challenge made them for Case under contract? ::shrug:: or as Ron suggests, maybe someone else (like Schrade or Camillus) made them.

Thanks to both of you for the pictures. Now I have even more to look for! ::facepalm::

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I believe the knives were made by their respected factories because the blades are very different between the two makers but how they came to have the same handles is the big unanswered question .
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I have never seen the copper version of the Challenge knife prior to Scoutknives posting the picture. That is a new one on me. However, I have seen the RS3333 with covered backsprings but have not come across one for sale. Yet. :)

Regarding the Challenge/Case mystery, it appears that George Schrade could be a common link, as he was involved with both Challenge and Case back around 1917. The interactions or contracts pertained to switchblades but who knows? I don't see much on the 2 knife makers crossing paths otherwise.
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Showing a little love for Cattaraugus and it's contribution to BSA knives (and a non-official)!

Official 4 Blade model (w/bail):
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Official 3 Blade model (no bail):
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Unofficial 4 blade Family/Beans Knife:
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Nice !!!
I had a 4 blade official Cattaraugus not to long ago with Beans Scout etched on the master blade . I'm sure it was for L&L Bean
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Very nice additions to this thread gentlemen ::tu::

I am seeing some I have never seen before :D
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Very nice additions to this thread gentlemen ::tu::

I am seeing some I have never seen before :D
Same here. I'm lovin' it! 8)
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philco wrote:
Miller Bro`s wrote:Very nice additions to this thread gentlemen ::tu::

I am seeing some I have never seen before :D
Same here. I'm lovin' it! 8)
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ScoutKnives wrote:Nice !!!
I had a 4 blade official Cattaraugus not to long ago with Beans Scout etched on the master blade . I'm sure it was for L&L Bean
Mine is etched as well, here is a pic..........
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Received this Bear MGC USA scout knife in the mail today.
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FYI, for you Official Scout Collectors/Displayers

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOY-SCOUTS-OF-A ... 3f3cbbaab9

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Some shots of scout knives in the original display boxes / cartons:

Ulster #1996 Utility c1970:
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Camillus #1047 White (Ivory) Whittler c1980:
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Ulster Scoutmaster Model #1036 c1970's (earlier 60's version had cardboard box on each knife):
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Ulster Smooth White handled #1046 Deluxe:
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Camillus #1047 Brown Whittler c1970's:
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Camillus White Cub Knife #1885 c1980:
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:shock: ::tu:: ::tu:: :D
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Absolutely Awesome! Thanks for showing Ron & Scoutknives! ::tu::

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OK enough already with all those minty like new scouts. Let's see some that have been camping like mine all have. ::woot::
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For Phil......:)
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I hate to disappoint Phil....................but I will. :D Mint Keen Kutter.
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Diamond Edge.
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