The All Scout Knives Thread

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:11 am

Some NYK Co, Hammer Brand eye candy.......

Where it all started:

A nice group shot:

One of my nicest specimens:

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:21 am

Very nice !

Any 2 blades or junior sizes ?

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:30 am

I never collected the 2 blades because I have been a bigger fan of the 4 blades scout knives as a whole. However, in recent times, I have changed my tune in order to keep expanding the collection. I do have a really sweet Buffalo Bill NYK Co unofficial 4 blade.

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:48 pm

ronfish wrote:I never collected the 2 blades because I have been a bigger fan of the 4 blades scout knives as a whole. However, in recent times, I have changed my tune in order to keep expanding the collection. I do have a really sweet Buffalo Bill NYK Co unofficial 4 blade.

I completely understand , was always told to collect what you like .

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:52 pm

ronfish wrote:Some NYK Co, Hammer Brand eye candy.......

Mumbleypeg · Post by **Mumbleypeg** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 am

Miller Bro`s wrote:
ronfish wrote:Some NYK Co, Hammer Brand eye candy.......

Amen to that. Drooling here too!

Ken

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:20 pm

A few NYK scouts and boxes

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:48 pm

VERY impressive! You have me looking for the 2 blade artifacts now.

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:57 pm

Do I have anything that you don't have 3 of?!!

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:06 pm

ronfish wrote:Do I have anything that you don't have 3 of?!!

I pretty much only have one of each but i get into the different variations of the same knife like slightly different blades and liner material .

Very nice , are they both brass liners or do you have the scarce version with a little different blades and silver liners ?

Mumbleypeg · Post by **Mumbleypeg** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:12 pm

ronfish wrote:Do I have anything that you don't have 3 of?!!

Ron, that knife is the "holy grail" for me! Have been trying to find one for several years. I have bid on a couple on eBay but did not win. Can you post a few more pictures?

Thanks,
Ken

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:13 pm

A couple Challenge Cutlery silver and copper handle scouts .
Very similar to the Case Bradford except the back handle is reversed .

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:25 pm

Both of these are the Case Bradford version have brass liners and the long pull. Did the Case version come with silver liners at some point or was it the Challenge Cutlery version? The Challenge Cutlery version has a main blade with nail nick in lieu of the long pull. I am unsure of the correlation between Case and Challenge, perhaps there is a Schrade connection?

EDIT: I see that you have a Challenge version with long pull. Interesting, never seen one with the long pull.

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:03 pm

Yes I have seen and owned several case Bradford's with silver liners , one distinct difference was a shorter screwdriver and a slightly different can opener , a little harder to find variation .

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:13 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:
ronfish wrote:Do I have anything that you don't have 3 of?!!
Ron, that knife is the "holy grail" for me! Have been trying to find one for several years. I have bid on a couple on eBay but did not win. Can you post a few more pictures?

Thanks,
Ken

Here you are Ken:

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:54 pm

ronfish wrote:VERY impressive! You have me looking for the 2 blade artifacts now.

If you can find one 2 blade a year consider your self lucky !

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:42 pm

One more for today , the not often seen Remington rs3333 scout with covered back springs .

Mumbleypeg · Post by **Mumbleypeg** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:19 pm

Thanks! The only Challenge version I have seen previously is pictured in Holbrook's book. Until now I wasn't aware there was a copper version. Anyone know how Challenge and Case both came to have essentially the same knife? I'm thinking maybe one of them made them all, e.g. probably Challenge made them for Case under contract?

or as Ron suggests, maybe someone else (like Schrade or Camillus) made them.

Thanks to both of you for the pictures. Now I have even more to look for!

Ken

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:00 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:Thanks! The only Challenge version I have seen previously is pictured in Holbrook's book. Until now I wasn't aware there was a copper version. Anyone know how Challenge and Case both came to have essentially the same knife? I'm thinking maybe one of them made them all, e.g. probably Challenge made them for Case under contract? or as Ron suggests, maybe someone else (like Schrade or Camillus) made them.

Thanks to both of you for the pictures. Now I have even more to look for!

Ken

I believe the knives were made by their respected factories because the blades are very different between the two makers but how they came to have the same handles is the big unanswered question .
As for the copper handled version I've only seen 3

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:19 pm

I have never seen the copper version of the Challenge knife prior to Scoutknives posting the picture. That is a new one on me. However, I have seen the RS3333 with covered backsprings but have not come across one for sale. Yet.

Regarding the Challenge/Case mystery, it appears that George Schrade could be a common link, as he was involved with both Challenge and Case back around 1917. The interactions or contracts pertained to switchblades but who knows? I don't see much on the 2 knife makers crossing paths otherwise.

ronfish · Post by **ronfish** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:53 pm

Showing a little love for Cattaraugus and it's contribution to BSA knives (and a non-official)!

Official 4 Blade model (w/bail):

Official 3 Blade model (no bail):

Unofficial 4 blade Family/Beans Knife:

Shot of the group:

ScoutKnives · Post by **ScoutKnives** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:18 pm

Nice !!!
I had a 4 blade official Cattaraugus not to long ago with Beans Scout etched on the master blade . I'm sure it was for L&L Bean

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:53 pm

Very nice additions to this thread gentlemen

I am seeing some I have never seen before

philco · Post by **philco** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:37 pm

Miller Bro`s wrote:Very nice additions to this thread gentlemen

I am seeing some I have never seen before

Same here. I'm lovin' it!

knife-nut · Post by **knife-nut** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:03 am

philco wrote:
Miller Bro`s wrote:Very nice additions to this thread gentlemen

I am seeing some I have never seen before
Same here. I'm lovin' it!

All I can say is WOW.

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