Knives with Patents

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Is it a switchblade?
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It's not a switch blade. It looks like a traditional lock back except the knob at the butt engages the back spring. As long as the knob is engaged it opens like a normal knife but won't close. Disengage the knob and then push on the back spring like a normal lock back and you can close the knife. It looks like it was designed so that if you knew you weren't going to use it for a long period of time you could leave the spring disengaged. It looks like around 1/4'' or so of the tip is missing and it has been reground but I suspect it falls into the category of a gentleman's self defense knife which were popular around that time. The scales are snakeskin pattern bone but worn. It's definitely an old one.
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Here is a JACK KNIFE BEN with PAT'D 4/7/08 and I have a WINCHESTER with the same double fluted punch blade with the same tang stamp. Now if I could find a NAPANOCH cattle knife with the same punch & markings?
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Great knives!! I love that knife Mr Iron Head ::tu::
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Robeson had many patents through the years.
I do not have an example of all of them, I don't think.
I probably cannot even present a coherent listing of them or pictures.

Michael mentioned the MasterCraft knives previously in this thread. Robeson introduced the line in 1929.

They also patented a handle/liner arrangement where the nickel-silver liners wrapped over and around the edges of the composite handle material, holding them in place and negating the need for handle pins. Patented 6/13/1916.

Below are photos of several examples of such knives and a tang stamp of the patent date. All but the fancy slant bolstered congress are mine. The congress was an Ebay auction knife from which I snipped the photos. It's a small photo. You cannot tell much from it. That is the only example of that pattern I have ever seen.

Of course, Robeson held the patent for the Cooper punch blade, dated APR 25, 05.

They made the Flame Edge tungsten-carbide coated knives in the 1950's and the Frozen Heat tempered knives from the same time period.

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Larger but not very clear ::shrug::
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This is the only one I have with a patent no. for the liner-lock. This old Catt was etched Hunters Pride at one time if I recall correctly. Lost my books in a house fire. Its got some blade wear as you can see but my pics don't do justice to that beautiful old bone. Slim.
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Very nice Slim ::tu::

I have a Catt somewhere with that patent on the liner lock, but it is the large folding hunting knife ::nod::
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Thank's Miller Bro's. Except for in books I've only seen a few old Catt hunters at shows. The large ones usually have a very large number after the dollar sign. Slim.
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slimpickins wrote: Except for in books I've only seen a few old Catt hunters at shows. The large ones usually have a very large number after the dollar sign.
:lol: This is true ::nod::
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Here is a Case Texas Lockhorn with Pat. Pend. on it.
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just picked a E.B Sears pat # 487,562. its a Griffin's waterproofer . the knife was used in mining to crimp caps & fuses in 1892.
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Now that is special. ::tu::
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Iron Hoarder wrote:Now that is special. ::tu::
Thanks, not bad shape for 120 years
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I hate to keep boring you with these old Jack Knife Ben knives but here is one with the Napanoch double fluted punch that reads PAT APPLIED FOR. What year do you think that would be?
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Nice Paul!
I wonder why no one applied that principal to a fish knife and made a knife that would crimp lead shot?

Thanks for sharing the pics!
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:) thanks Dale, i guess for safety reasons on a boat
JkB, i think it would add strenght to the punch but thats a guess
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JACKNIFEBEN wrote:I hate to keep boring you with these old Jack Knife Ben knives but here is one with the Napanoch double fluted punch that reads PAT APPLIED FOR. What year do you think that would be?
No idea about the year.

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Paul,
that waterproofer is a grand knife for any colledtion. Really nice!
Thanks for showing that and the print.
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Here's one.
I wonder how many of these are lurking in the silt.
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::tu:: nice Joe ! got one on my wish list .if the blade ever snaps off it will make a nice fluke rig :lol:
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paulsvintage wrote:if the blade ever snaps off it will make a nice fluke rig :lol:
That's right Paul. Think of the money I could save on lead weights.
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Here's a little German knife with the patent date on the shield. 2 3/4".
Plastic covers.
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What is the patent date?
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Hi Dimitri,
I think it is Apr. 5, 47 ........Thanks
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