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 Post subject: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:56 am 
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This might have been a topic before but I just got a knife in that has a patent that I have never seen and I can't pull it up in the google patent search. It is marked on the front tang HENRY SEARS & SON. On the back is Patented June 28 1870. It is 4 3/8" closed and the blade is beefy and sabor ground on both sides. The back side has filing, I am calling it that but check out the pics and you will see what I mean. I wonder what it was made to be used for? If anyone knows please let me know.

I have a few different knives with patents and will be listing them also. I thought this might be a fun topic.

So show us yours.

I know David, it's not etched, mint nor does it have salesman's ink but it is cool.


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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:08 am 
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I do like that, a propper no nonsense working knife. I reckon the back of the blade could be for striking with a flint to make a fire? A very nice vintage piece! ::tu::

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Tang stamped PRO.PAT.18230/44 SHEFFIELD , which I believe is a provisional patent number for the year 1944. The chequered grips are cast aluminium and very similar to the Royal Navy handles on the standard issue seamans knife of that time, and the British army were looking to replace the bexoid handled knife with something more durable for the far east theatre, which they did in 1945 with the all stainless steel "BURMA" model. So it could be that this was a contender for that job and didn't make the grade? Then again, given my track record when it comes to guessing, probably not! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:04 pm 
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Great old knife Mike! ::drool:: ::drool:: I like it!
Do you have a theory as to the use of the file cut into the back of the blade?
Given the date, Zorro's idea makes as much sense as anything I can come up with.

Zorro, nice piece of history! ::tu::

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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:19 pm 
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It could be a a stripping comb to get the burrs out of a hunting dogs coat. I have seen a remington with a blade like this

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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:27 pm 
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I have no idea myself but can anyone find the patent? I have been trying with no luck at this point. Here is another made by Edward Sears.


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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:39 pm 
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It is listed as a dog grooming blade remington patern R4733 in Stewart&Ritchie Remington knives past and present pg. 162

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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:41 pm 
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Thanks Bill, I don't have that book but have another on Remington's that will check.


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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:52 pm 
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The Sears blasting cap knife is a no-brainer, but I haven't found the patent on the first knife either.

I only looked for about 20 minutes, so maybe I'll try again later.

I does look like a grooming blade, but very worn. The notches between the serations would have to be deeper to work, and are straight not slanted on the newer one I have.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:35 pm 
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Mike, I wonder if that's some kind of horticulture knife. The slanted serrations would help with stem cutting. I've seen a number of modern hedge clippers with the same types of serrations on the blades. No idea about the patent though.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:53 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:24 am 
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Funny how things work out. I bought the knife I started the topic with a week ago and had not seen another in the years of collecting. Well check out ebay item 370118768950 and there is the same knife in better shape with a different markers name. Man I wish I could find a copy of the patent!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:30 am 
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Found the patent, check the link below


http://www.google.com/patents?id=bupWAA ... es&cad=0_1


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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:07 am 
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I'd say Eric almost nailed that one. The sheafs were tied with a few stalks of the wheat back before combines, so that knife would certainly be for cutting horticultural products !

'Ol Eric's pretty sharp himself. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:21 am 
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Such cutting humor Fran! ::shrug::
That's just not knife! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Knives with Patents
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:41 pm 
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Such cutting humor Fran! ::shrug::
That's just not knife! :mrgreen:

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Oh Crap, Dale. ::doh:: ::dang:: ::dang:: I wuz expecting that from Philco, not you.




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