An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield, Eng,

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An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield, Eng,

Postby Mossdancer » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:18 pm

A Great old piece of history, My Great Great Grandpa might have been scalped by one of it's earlier relatives in West Texas in 1885 or there about. This one is at least 26 years newer as you will see from the tang. It has the four peppercorn X with a diamond (important to note this diamond is standing vertical). The earlier ones were on their sides. It is also marked with I. Wilson Sycamore St. Sheffield, England. This would definitely put the age at 1891 or after. It is fully hammer forged it tapers from front to back and from top to bottom. My research says the six rivets on the short tang denotes the knife was possibly around or even before 1900. I Don't plan on doing anything to it or with it other than enjoy for awhile. Please take a look and let me know what you think.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Iron Hoarder » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:59 am

Good knife. Give it a good clean up and put it in the kitchen.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby knives-are-quiet » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:41 pm

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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Mossdancer » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:24 pm

Thank for the suggestion re the kitchen but I have been accumulating these old guys for several years now and my cutlery drawer is already full.
The first I have seen of the displayed chart, thank you.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby smiling-knife » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:18 pm

Nice one Moss. This may be of interest to you. I hope all is well.

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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Mossdancer » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:25 pm

Thanks Steve:
All is well other than politics here in the new land. You are fine I suspect hopefully.
When the chance occurs would you please post a link to the site the brochure came from.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby smiling-knife » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:44 pm

Hi Moss I am well thanks. The source of this ad is The Sheffield Knife Book, A History and Collectors' Guide by Geoffrey Tweedale. The Hallamshire Press, 1996.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Mossdancer » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:36 pm

Thanks
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby TripleF » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:03 pm

Wondering if I might be allowed to post this sharpening steel we've had in our drawer since my wife and I were married 24 years ago, and was given to her by her father who was a popular chef in the northeast years ago.

Stamp reads:
Peppercoorn symbol (4 circles around an "x") then a diamond.
I. Wilson
Sycamore St.
Sheffield England

I just used it and she's a dandy!
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Mossdancer » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:23 pm

Post any you want. That is a nice looking piece you got there.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby smiling-knife » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:30 pm

Very knice old sharpening steel. Thanks for posting it. Do you know what the handle is made from? :D
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby TripleF » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:35 pm

Wood.

can you date this?
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby smiling-knife » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:53 pm

Looks similar to the far right steel in the 1919 ad. Plus or minus 10 years perhaps ::shrug::
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Billie T. » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:09 am

Hello Everyone,

I am relatively new to the board, but I've found it very interesting.

On the thread conceding I. (John) Wilson, one contributed attached a jpeg:

JOHN WILSON
Sheffield
(1892) - (1919)
Cutlery in general
Ref. 1892, 1919, 1974

And then below the wording, there were what appeared to be four different trademarks for John Wilson.

Does anyone know when each of these trademarks were used by the John Wilson company in Sheffield.

Thank you in advance for all your help.
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Re: An Old Clip point Butcher By I.(John) Wilson Sheffield,

Postby Mossdancer » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:02 am

Bill
Just hold on for awhile and someone will more than likely come along who can answer your question.
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