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Rip a good one? :lol: :lol: Too cool for school Mitch! ::tu::
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Ok you peaked my interest, so I bought 2, the natural horn and mahogany, $28 for both. Will check em out here soon!
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I think we may have been tricked!
I send a PM to Jonet to see if he could post his Playboy add to compare knives, but I went to the Official Laguiole Web Site. I bought the Mahogany and Natural Horn Patterns of these knives, and they were very cheap.
Judging by the website, you will not even buy a corkscrew knife for less than $165!!! I also read their imitation warning page, and they say quite a few come out of Pakistan. Now mine were shipped from Australia, so I suspect mine may be counterfiet, judging by the bee design and the end of the backspring, and comparing it to the ones that are on the web site, just not the same quality.
My 2 have sticky spots on the blade were there was a sticker that had been removed, I wonder if it was a made in Pakistan sticker? Will never know. I browsed on E-Bay at these Laguiole Knivesa, and it looks like you can pick them up very cheap, so I wonder just how many are the real deal?
Here is the official web site for the company, big difference in quality from what I can see:
http://www.laguiole.com/index2.htm
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Ok, so I have been researching and reading most of the night on these Laguiole Knives, and now am just confused!!! ::doh::
Apparently, Laguiole is some place in France, and is just a style of knife, not necissarily a brand name. So from what I can tell it will be Laguiole the the Artists or Knife Makers name. So these say Laguiole L'eclair. The Laguiole have the R in the circle as well for registered trademark. Now running searches on BF and Yahoo and such, I have not come across L'Eclair.
Now on other forums I have read that it seems alot of Laguiole's have a problem with the blade sitting on the backspring, or snapping against the back spring, which both of mine do this as well. The fix was either cut a piece of leather or cork and place down inside the knife!
Now judging by all the Laguiloe knives I have looked at last night, these do not some no where near the craftsmanship that I was looking at. One thing I read was if you expect to get an authentic Laguiole knife, expect to pay $100 or more. They also addess the cheaper one on E-Bay, and say for some reason these knives are a favorite of counterfeiters.
So I have a couple theories on these knives:
1. They were made in France, but are mass produced, and therefore donot reflect the craftsmanship of the regular Laguiole Knives
2. They are Pakistan knock offs, yet these are much better builds than the junk I see come out of Pakistan.

So I think I may post them on BF, and let 'ole Bernie Levine give me an answer. As I am pretty beat on reading about Laguiole Knives!!!
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Got a decent lead on these knives, apparently Laguiole L'Eclair is marketed like a brand name, on clothing, shoes, sunglasses, knives, etc etc, and these knives fall under that branding.
Here was the link I was given that displays these knives and much more:
http://www.laguiole.tm.fr/
And the discussion from BF:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=485419
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agteacher2 wrote:I picked this little knife up on Ebay tonight. Anyone know about this shape of Laugiole. Any guess at a retail value.

It seemed so different and the price was low, so I just had to have it ::shrug::
this kind of laguiole appears in the middle of 80's when regional french knives attraction was coming back - his value is about 30-40€
it was manufactured at thiers which is "the french capital of knives" (most of french knives are manufactured in this town)
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Well, it is French so you you know that somehow it involves surrendering. :mrgreen:
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This knife is a Chinese knock-off,it is true Laguiole is a type of knife not protected,so everybody can produce a simular type of knife and claim it to be a ''vrai Laguiole''.So far so good,but they should put made in China on the knife instead of L'eclair,by doing so they deceive their customers.
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tendots wrote:This knife is a Chinese knock-off,it is true Laguiole is a type of knife not protected,so everybody can produce a simular type of knife and claim it to be a ''vrai Laguiole''.So far so good,but they should put made in China on the knife instead of L'eclair,by doing so they deceive their customers.
laguiole l'éclair is a french registered trademark made in thiers - after, this model is not really a traditional Laguiole -
a traditional laguiole is like theses

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Stan,I own well over 50 Laguioles,only two of them marked L'eclair(my very first purchases).These two lack walk and talk,F&F,they are as genuine as Pamela Anderson's b.....The company be well registrated in France but the knives are made in Pakislavia or such country.Cordialement Gus.
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My two Laguioles look like this. I like them very much and wish I had more.
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tendots wrote:Stan,I own well over 50 Laguioles,only two of them marked L'eclair(my very first purchases).These two lack walk and talk,F&F,they are as genuine as Pamela Anderson's b.....The company be well registrated in France but the knives are made in Pakislavia or such country.Cordialement Gus.
:D it's depend - Some are subcontracted to pakistan, china .. others are made in France: it depends on the range, it is clear that when you pay 15/20€ it will not be made ​​in France
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This one is French made.
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If there is a "440" on the tang they are surely made in China. The price of french made Lagioule went trough the roof recently so the low price is a very good indicator as well.
That said there ain´t no such thing like an "original Lagioule knife" so it´s just good and bad ones.
I nearly bought one of these too until I researched the topic more thorough.

Can´t do much damage for $15 though...
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Farrell,not true,many Laguiole(genuine French made)back in the eighties were made in 440 steel.Look on the German Bay for Laguioles they usually fetch not the highest prices.Look for Forge de Laguiole,Rossignol,or G.David,R David.Alles Klare Gus.
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Yes, I can imagine that, 440 was quite "big" in the eighties for knives. As it seems now the cutleries and buyers seem to focus more on traditional steels. I would prefer a genuinely forged steel on a Laguiole like the Forge du Moulin uses.
Unfortunately the german Ebay is awash with chinese Laguiole knives.

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Frank,are you refering to carbon steel?http://www.ebay.de/itm/Laguiole-Forge-d ... 77.Regards Gus.
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Yes, that´s one of Forge du Moulin´s knifes. The owner Manfred Wager is a german living in France. Once he was dealing with Lagioule knives and when manufacturers became more and more reluctant to do custom orders he dicided to make his own knives. On the german knife forums he is considered as one of the good guys. I suppose I will give him a try sooner or later.

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They say Phillipe Voissiere is an artist! Pretty nice knives for sure.
I really like the "Brut de Forge"-style but they are much too expensive IMHO. :roll:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Laguiole-en-Aubr ... 115wt_1065

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Expensive is a matter of opinion.If you consider the amount of work involved in creating such a knife,I think the prices of such knives are moderate.And for those who want a ''true''couteau Layol for cheap there is L'eclair,Baladeo,unsw.Have a good one Gus.
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440C is a good steel :D
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Capt. Farrel wrote:Yes, I can imagine that, 440 was quite "big" in the eighties for knives. As it seems now the cutleries and buyers seem to focus more on traditional steels. I would prefer a genuinely forged steel on a Laguiole like the Forge du Moulin uses.
Unfortunately the german Ebay is awash with chinese Laguiole knives.

Frank
Laguiole custom knives maker indifferently use stainless steels (19C27 [similar to 440C], RWL34 and other ..) and carbon steels. It's just a choice of the customer when ordering and it does not indicate a higher quality of one or the other. Moreover, the major part of production "industrial" (actually small workshops) is made ​​of stainless steel simply because of consumer preference for steel will not rust
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Capt. Farrel wrote:They say Phillipe Voissiere is an artist! Pretty nice knives for sure.
I really like the "Brut de Forge"-style but they are much too expensive IMHO. :roll:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Laguiole-en-Aubr ... 115wt_1065

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if you want see his products :
http://philippe-voissiere.com/
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Merci bien Stancaiman,cordialement Gus ::tu::
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