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Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:13 am
by ziggy925
Just got my first Opinel knife. Not sure why I got it, but it is an intersting, simple design to add the mix.

Any thoughts on these knives?

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:16 am
by trey
I had one. I like the concept but I just couldn't get into it. I gave it away.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:39 am
by Johnj
It's a french knife. ::shrug::

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:28 am
by Big Barn
I have two Opinel 'like' knives. One Marjacq & another from Durol, both French made. The thing I like about the Durol is the push button lock (open/close). The Marjacq has the improved ring lock for open or closed use & it came with a very nice snap over leather sheath. I believe Opinel has the improved ring lock too. All three companies are moving to using all types of handle material & a few different shapes & make great slicers. Plus, if you lose it, you haven't broken the bank (at under $20). Of the three, I use/carry the Durol the most.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:51 am
by FRJ
The Opinel is a good knife. There are stronger knives, but it is a good servicable knife.
I carried one for several years when I could afford nothing more.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:36 am
by pinnah
I really like my Opinel #8.

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Several things going for it...

1) It has a great carbon blade. Folks who worry more about such things than I do (or fully understand) say that their reputations for being great slicers is due to the convex grind of the blade. Add to this a longer blade than most pocket knives and only a moderate clip profile and you have an incredibly useful EDC knife.

2) it's light. Insanely light. This combined with the wood handle makes it an easily carried knife (ymmv).

3) It's tough. I don't baby my knife but I can't say I've been able to damage this knife. It's tougher than the weight and low cost suggest.

4) Its very office friendly. The most common reaction from. Non-knife people is usually, "that's cool looking"

There are some downsides...

1) It's in expensive and this often carries the baggage of meaning cheap, poor quality or not serious. Some (not all) knife people might be embarrassed for you.

2) The knife begs for tinkering. One common mod is to pop off the locking (YouTube) and file down the top edge so the locking spins 90-180 degrees. Makes the lock really absolute. Another common mod is to reshape or restain the handle to suit your taste. Hand carved Opinel handles are something of a cult thing.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:03 am
by ziggy925
Interesting replies and photos. I got the carbon steel and the knife is very light. I will say one thing about it: The French definitely make better knives than cars. I also like the idea of staining the handle, and whittling the handle into something interesting would be very cool.

Anybody know how it comes apart? :D

I can also see where it would be more of a conversation piece than the SOG I carry.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:28 pm
by pinnah
They make better knives than bicycles too, imo. There's a saying among bike mechanics. It's often better to restore a bike, unless it is French. They used all sort of obscure standards on their bikes, which made them essentially unrepairable in the US back in the day. My experience in dealing with those hassles left a real anti-French bias in my mouth, which is to say that it is all the more noteworthy that the Opinel has earned my respect and loyalty. It's just a useful and functional knife.

There are only four parts to the Opinel: the handle, the blade, the pivot pin (hidden) and the lock ring.

The crude method I use to remove the lock ring is shown in the You Tube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMI9MKuygIE

I use a small screwdriver as the pry bar.

Another method is to use a set of reverse pliers or to make your own reverse pliers by cutting down the jaws of a wooden clothes pin.

If you study the ramp along the top edge of the lock ring and how it engages the blade as it locks, it should be pretty self-explanatory to see how to file down the top of the ring so that the ring will spin more than 90 degrees. This mod really changed the Opinel's lock into something I trust a lot.

I once heard a speaker talking about computer security and he said all that a hacker is is somebody who can bend the computer to their will. A "hack" is old computer programming lingo for taking an existing computer program and modifying it slightly to better suit your need. A good modification would be called a "good hack". It's similar to hot rodding - the act of bending the car to your will.

The best advice I got about the Opinel is that it's a starting point for modification. It's the knife equivalent to a 1967 Mustang. When it was sold, it was pretty much understood that the buyer would modify it. Going the other direction, there is something a bit sad about an entirely stock Mustang in my mind. Same thing is true about a stock Opinel. In my way of thinking, my Opinel should end up looking different from your Opinel. They're meant to be hacked, hod rodded and modified to suit your taste.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:17 pm
by woseyjales
One easy way to pop the lock ring off
your Opinel is to simply pull blade open against resistance
of locked ring in closed position. Be forewarned when ring
goes ka-twang ! it usually ricochets under or behind
the nearest piece of furniture.
As for the comparison to a stock 1967 Mootang, based on
cheap price for Opie and car you must be feeling sorry for
an inline 6 and 3 spd manual coupe. 390 GT fastback wasn't
too shabby right out of the crate.
Nose heavy yes, but not too shabby. Man, it hurts to think
back that far.
I like the Opies for their functionality, ergonomics, & aesthetics.
The fact that they are inexpensive w/o being 'cheap' is a nice
plus but the other attributes far outlasts low cost.
Only reason my No.6 carbon is #2 EDC is the Sak Cadet has more
tools such as screwdriver tips and file which makes for useful
unsharpened edge for scraping or point for probing.

I like to sand the handles to round off the angular corners.
This also accentuates the grain which varies quite a bit from
knife to knife. If you wish to carve your Opinel they do have
some with larger raw handles to provide more material for
carving with their Ebauche line.
EDC#2 No.6 el carboney:
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No.6 SS Walnut & Oak after 'pocket wore' treatment:
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Schmancy Bubinga has polished blade:
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Re: Opinel

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:47 pm
by ol' smoke
Sand 'em down to easy open with one hand. When you tell girls it's from France they will simply melt, Ahhhh....... ::tu::

Re: Opinel

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:43 pm
by woseyjales
ziggy925 wrote:.....I will say one thing about it:
The French definitely make better knives than cars.
Reminds me of a few jokes re what FIAT meant.
1. Feeble Italian Attempt at Transportation
2. Fix It Again Tony

Supposedly the reason Columbo loved his Peugeot 403
so much was because his first car was a FIAT.
::facepalm::

Re: Opinel

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:14 pm
by pinnah
The best comment on the Opinel I've heard was comparing it to a Buck 110 (which I also own):

Opinel: Traditional, dangerous, good with cheese.

Buck 110: Big, bold, capable of field dressing big game (or at least pretending that you might). :shock:

Re: Opinel

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:26 pm
by ziggy925
ol' smoke wrote:Sand 'em down to easy open with one hand. When you tell girls it's from France they will simply melt, Ahhhh....... ::tu::

::tu::

A friend of mine had a Citroen, which was a very cool car -- when it was running.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:31 pm
by ziggy925
BTW, the blade is so thin it took no time at all to put a very keen edge on it. That said, one of the dullest knives I've ever seen out of the box. I guess they do test them on cheese. ::ds::

Re: Opinel

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:23 pm
by ziggy925
I think my sharpening skills are getting better. I just pulled the Opinel out to use it, rinsed it and wiped it with a cloth. Went through the cloth and into my finger. Ouch! :shock:

Haven't done something that stupid in ages, but I must admit my knives are sharper than they've ever been.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:37 am
by jerryd6818
ziggy925 wrote: A friend of mine had a Citroen.
Ugliest car that ever "graced" the roads.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:40 pm
by jmh58
I think Opies are cool!! ::nod:: And besides the French gave us french fries!!! ::facepalm:: ::woot:: John ::groove::

Re: Opinel

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:28 pm
by zeke/pa
I am a great fan of Opinel knives especially the Carbon Steel offerings.
Easy to sharpen , good edge holding and the price is right.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:58 am
by cb51
For the past 25 years or so, Opinels have been my main carry knife. I love the things. Simple, effective, and cuts like the hot knife through butter. They're kind of like a folding version of the Swedish mora knives. I used to prefer the carbon blades, but since 2000, Opinel has been using 12C27 and seem to be taking the hardness up a bit. The stainless ones now seem to hold an edge a bit better than the carbon. I like to sand off the factory finish and reshape and stain the handles. I've collected them from the little number 2 keychain size to the number 12 that I use as a coat pocket knife. Opinel folding saws are great on camping trips too.

I love the single bladed European style knives like Opinels, and the Mercator K55's. I rarely need more than one blade, and I like a lock.

Re: Opinel

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:30 am
by cb51
woseyjales wrote:
ziggy925 wrote:.....I will say one thing about it:
The French definitely make better knives than cars.
Reminds me of a few jokes re what FIAT meant.
1. Feeble Italian Attempt at Transportation
2. Fix It Again Tony

Supposedly the reason Columbo loved his Peugeot 403
so much was because his first car was a FIAT.
::facepalm::
Hey, don't knock the Peugeot, they were good cars. ::tu::

My pop had one when I was growing up in New Jersey, a 62 404 station wagon. He'd load up me and my brother and take us canoe camping in the Pine Barrens, and with the boat on top and all our gear in the back, it got it done. Pop drove that thing for 16 years before it went belly up, and then only because pop had some vague ideas of vehicle maintenance. Maybe he'd change the oil once in a while. Amazing it lasted that long.

But French auto makers did have some weird ideas of body styles. ::undecided::