Will Knives Fold?

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Recently received this as email alert from AKTI (American Knife and Tool Institute) and thought it should be posted here. AKTI is a non-profit organization of knife makers and knife owners advocating for knife rights. For additional info go to http://www.akti.org and click on "more" under the alerts section (left side of home page, near the top) .

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Interstate Transport of Knives
U.S. Senate Bill - S. 1955 "Knife Owner's Protection Act

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SUMMARY OF KNIFE LEGISLATION
Passage of the U.S. Senate bill S. 1955 Knife Owners' Protection Act (KOPA) will allow citizens to transport knives over state lines for lawful purposes, even when state or local restrictions would otherwise prohibit possession of that specific type of knife or length of blade.
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WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?
It will solve the problem of trying to abide by a patchwork of different laws in each state (or towns in that state) that you travel through or to. This will eliminate the potential for being arrested for possession of a knife that is legal where you live.

What AKTI is Doing
The American Knife & Tool Institute worked with Senator Mike Enzi (WY) to get this solution introduced. It is similar to the federal Firearms Owners Protection Act. We continue to provide input and assistance to help this bill through the legislative process.

What You Need to Do Now !
Contact your Senators by phone, mail or email and respectfully ask them to support S. 1955 and to contact Sen. Enzi to be a co-sponsor.


AKTI is doing what we can, will you do your part?
For more information and detailed bill information visit our website at: AKTI Works to Permit Interstate Transport of Knives
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As one who has carried a knife for close to ten years now, I've seen the laws most other countries have and it doesn't make sense. In England, any knife over three inches in length isn't OK. That means I'd be in jail, as I've carried fairly large tactical folders and folding hunters before. In some cities here in the US, it's illegal to carry a knife with a locking blade. That means I'd be in trouble right now if I lived in one of those cities, as the screwdriver blade on my Colonial TL-29 that I have in my pocket locks, in addition to about half the other knives I've carried over the years. I don't own any switchblades, so I guess I'm OK by Virginia and local laws. Luckily, assisted openings are not considered switchblades, as I have a Colonial Quick Flick.

I own a couple BB guns, and those things are usually considered toys to most people I know, but in a lot of countries, and a number of states here in the US, these things are controlled like firearms. Heck, last time I bought a can of airsoft BBs at Walmart, I had to get it "approved" by a cashier.

To me, knives are tools, and always have been. My grandfather and I both carry knives on the farm for opening cattle feed, cutting weed eater string, etc. They're especially tools when you carry a multi-tool like I usually do.


To quote something I've heard before, "Guns and knives don't kill people, people do". I don't own a firearm, but everyone I know owns at least one. I am very pro-second amendment.
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I'm happy to be part of this community

thanks for the post jerry ::tu::
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Howdy fellas, so good to have a little time to get back here and hear some real sensible talk again....spent so much time in Doc`s offices and hospitals this last year, fighting city traffic and hearing those damn boom boxes blare in the back of some teenagers cars that I was about to go zany. Thank God I don`t have to live in those cities where all that goes on and only have to go there now and then for my wife`s Doc`s appointments and thank God I`m a country Boy!

My granddad put his ole Remington .22 in my hand and told me to go get a couple squirrels for dinner back when I was 7 years old on my own!....would have been back in 1958. The previous year I shot my first raccoon out of a tree when I was 6....of course I wasn't on my own then, granddad and ole "Froggy Lee"(his best friend) was hunting and let me tag along. I`d been carrying a good western pocket knife since I was 5(and skinned my own game) and Dad bought me my first .410 shotgun when I was 10 and now...I`m wondering....what the heck has happened over the last 50 years!!!! Now days I suspect that both my granddad and my dad would have been thrown in jail for child abuse.....and I`d probably been put in some sterile foster home with no love, no care, no respect and most importantly no damn knowledge of what it really takes to raise a young man properly!

I thank all of you for chiming in here and raising hell about these dang politicians who were(mostly) raised with a sliver spoon in their mouth and who don`t have a clue about anything except lobbyists and pleasing all the so called "do--gooders" out there who think they know what`s good for everyone.

It`s a sad day and I wish I was still young enough and had the wherewithal to go out and "kick a few asses" so to speak. We need to wake people up to the fact that we need our own guns, knives and gear to defend ourselves from ANYONE that wants to take our hard fought freedoms away.

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Way too many of us are just apathetic. We hear about the dumba$$ gun or knife grabs and figure that'd it'd "never happen here where I live". That's just those crazies in the "big city".

The multitude of groups that are out to completely disarm we citizens are slowly chipping away at the stone that is our Constitution from all angles. They know they need to pander to their base in the large urban areas first, and slowly spread from there. Inch at a time.

Every time there is an incident, the dogs begin baying for more control. Knowing all along that criminals by definition are people who don't obey the law anyway. And our idiots in charge fall in line. Such as the new policy regarding our military recruiters. Rather than allowing our soldiers and airmen to be armed, they're directed to run away, or hide behind movable partitions. Disgusting. Reason? We don't want to upset the soccer moms at the strip mall if they see a Marine wearing a sidearm. I guess the idea of seeing an armed member of our military is way to stressful for people to endure. Oh the humanity!

The gov't nannies want every aspect of our life to flow through them cause they know what's best.

If we don't take stand now and become more involved in what's happening "over there", it'll be happening in your town too soon enough. Do your homework and vote. Support those groups that fight for us and our Constitution.
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I can say this... My father raised me to always carry a pocket knife. Not for self defense he actually always told me"if you pull that thing you better make sure ya know how to use it cause you'll look awful funny with it stuck up your ass"
I still carry at least one every day no matter what and feel rather naked when I enter places like an airport and am NOT ALLOWED to carry one. I read a bumper sticker once that read "if we outlaw guns only outlaws will have them" and that has stuck with me for years. It's true and will continue to be. The are plenty of laws in place making it illegal to Stab someone making more laws taking knives away will change nothing. I can not stress enough that if just one person on those flights during 9/11 has been carrying a knife maybe things would have gone differently.
I guess my opinions are just that.... MINE but I can tell you that the day a knife is outlawed will be the day that I to become one.
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The liberals seem to have the misguided notion that you can change the ways of evil people by smothering them with laws. Fourteen laws against that already on the books? Just one more is all it will take to fix the problem. Sigh. Like Ron White has said so many times, "You just can't fix stupid".
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Drug laws don't stop idiots from doing drugs. Gun laws don't stop criminals from shooting people. Knife laws don't stop the insane from attaching people. Reality doesn't stop liberals from passing laws that make no sense.

What we need are good men with guns, knives, and sense, not more laws.
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Colonel26 wrote: What we need are good men with guns, knives, and sense, not more laws.
Well said Wade! ::tu::
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Well, I'm not a liberal but all laws can't be painted with the same brush. The bunch in the White House are in the process of dismantling clean water and clean air laws. If fact Trump just signed bills to dismantle clean water and air regulations. So corporations will be able to pollute your water and coal producers don't have to produce clean coal, and will pollute are air we breath. That's not fake news! It's a fact.
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Trump didn't dismantle any laws.He sign ed an executive order to override an Obama executive order.There is a place for politics and this ain't it.
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^^^^The process has started.

This isn't political this is about what we drink and breath. Second this whole thread is political, about laws with knives.
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If you read the first two posts in this thread you should see how the thread ended up in the General Knife Discussion. I can see why you would relate this thread to political views so maybe it should have been moved to the Political Discussion Forum but this where a Moderator moved it so here it shall stay.

As to your comments on clean water and air pollution, you make some valid points BUT this is a knife thread and as Roger (peanut740) opined, the comments do not belong here, they belong in the Political Discussion Forum. If you take exception to my post, that's fine but you need to take it up with one of the Moderators or Administrators. They have the final word on this kind of thing. Enjoy your day.
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I spent 30 years in law enforcement and during that time personally saw 2, just two assaults with "pocket knives" (both were Buck 110s) but I also personally know of more than a dozen assaults and homicides involving plain old unregulated kitchen knives! Laws are only obeyed by the law abiding, criminals could care less what the law says. Obama was trying to regulate into a socialist state, Trump is trying to undo it! He put all sorts of regulations on the coal industry without having a viable alternative.
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^^^The regulations imposed were to insure "clean air" in a industry that pollutes it. This administration is going back to, no regulations on water or air. When one can't even shower with the quality of water their receiving, let alone drinking it, then they will realize what has happened, of coarse it will be to late then. Corporations will pollute the water and air as they did in the early 1900"s. Wait and see.

Edit There are viable alturnatives to coal, the republicans in power wouldn't approve any of them.
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Have mercy! Now I feel like I ought to go hug a tree or something.

Nah, on second thought I'll just go hack on one with my pocket knife while it's still legal.
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Not sure I understand this thread ::shrug:: All of my knives fold ::shrug::
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Well let me just say...............no, on second thought let me just keep my mouth shut except to say most of my knives fold too! ::nod::
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I'm with Phillip......working in DC leaves me with enough politics for all forum members ::facepalm::
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JIMJC wrote:^^^^The process has started.

This isn't political this is about what we drink and breath. Second this whole thread is political, about laws with knives.

This thread is about knife laws, not clean air and water laws. Let's keep this thread on topic please.
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Thank you Phil, I was thinking the same thing.

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Thank you Phil. ::tu::

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With the recent court decision that "weapons of war" don't count under the 2nd Amendment, I have to start wondering if there will be any overlap with knife carry laws, or if there will be guidance given at the federal level to ensure compliance with precedent. What may be okay to carry today, like a RAT-1 or a large Sebenza, could suddenly be "too big" or too easy to open for EDC tomorrow. Would my USN diver's knife suddenly qualify for scrutiny, and be subject to a federal ban, or perhaps any one of my dozen or so vintage bayonets? Will a FFL class 3 be a prerequisite for owning automatic knives? It's getting a little silly, frankly, and I think everyone can agree that this is one bit of regulation that needs to be moved to the front of the dismantling line.

Politically, you can be on whatever side of whatever issue you want, I've got my own opinions too -- but as far as knives go (and the 2nd), this country's history should really mean that our right to carry a knife is as indelible and irrevocable as the Constitution says our right to carry a firearm is.
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So far in this country (Canada) we can carry knives, but I can see the winds of change happening and knives becoming a subject of restriction. Up here, we typically have less tolerant (liberal) governments that take it upon themselves to decide what's good for us. However, I have found that no matter what color they are, whether blue, red, orange or green, they like to restrict freedoms for the populace, but not themselves.
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