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peterforce wrote:the one mentioned above on EBAY the main thing that chased me away was the profile shots.

i keep telling folks look at bolsters and naill nicks.

look at the bolsters on the profile shot.cleaned so much their almost as thin as the liners....lol!


that one on ebay is it real or fake..just super cleaned....what is wrong...if i missed it on this thread im sorry.
knifegirl888 wrote:Was this the one? It doesn't have a hole for the guard... I never noticed it until now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Large-Vintage- ... 3cb10f4241
With all the different KOTW we have been discussing on Ebay, it might be getting confusing. The King of the Woods that I linked above, looks like it should have a swing guard because it appears to be a 12839. I didn't even notice it until Jackknifeben and his keen eyes :shock: pointed it out. With the flat end bolster that it had, it should have had a swingguard, or at least the hole where it would have been attached.
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so in this case bolsters are right but its a fake?

the real ones look so inviting!!! ::tu::
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In my opinion, the bolster and handle are right, but the blade doesn't appear to match the knife.
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And it still sold for 520.00? That is why I started mine at 800.00. Iowa is having their knife show the 23rd if you want to see some good knives.
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In regards to the knife that KnifeGirl posted, I would just say that Cattaraugus was in business for 70 +- years and that the variety of configurations that they might have produced a given pattern in (particularly one as popular as the KotW) can be judged by the similar variety in Case knives, although not nearly as well documented. That's why I say that the presence or lack of a shield or even a particular locking mechanism, or the presence or lack of a pattern number is not absolutlely diagnostic in determining the authenticity of such a knife. Again, the knife that KG posted looks to have been cleaned but otherwise does look authentic to me.

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msteele6 wrote:-

In regards to the knife that KnifeGirl posted, I would just say that Cattaraugus was in business for 70 +- years and that the variety of configurations that they might have produced a given pattern in (particularly one as popular as the KotW) can be judged by the similar variety in Case knives, although not nearly as well documented. That's why I say that the presence or lack of a shield or even a particular locking mechanism, or the presence or lack of a pattern number is not absolutlely diagnostic in determining the authenticity of such a knife. Again, the knife that KG posted looks to have been cleaned but otherwise does look authentic to me.

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I am a fairly new collector, so I could be wrong in my assumption. You could be very well right... just seemed strange to me is all.
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Before it gets more confusing... LOL

I, knifegirl888, am here to testify that Bret888 & 1959brett are not the same person.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0621354044


Now look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-York-Knife-Co-P ... 3361a3a9e3

Just about everything he has listed right now has been messed with, replaced blades, broken handles, rehandle jobs, etc, etc.

Anyone who buys knives from this guy is crazy, JMO.

Ok, back to king of the woods knives :lol:
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Just don't understand how a nice girl like KG888 can stay with a crook like that :lol:
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JACKNIFEBEN wrote:And it still sold for 520.00? That is why I started mine at 800.00. Iowa is having their knife show the 23rd if you want to see some good knives.
When and where? I might actually be able to get to that one.
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tjmurphy wrote:Just don't understand how a nice girl like KG888 can stay with a crook like that :lol:
Hey now! I will stick with the "Bret" with only one "t" in his name! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Sorry. Couldn't help myself. ::doh::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0621354044


Now look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-York-Knife-Co-P ... 3361a3a9e3

Just about everything he has listed right now has been messed with, replaced blades, broken handles, rehandle jobs, etc, etc.

Anyone who buys knives from this guy is crazy, JMO.

Ok, back to king of the woods knives :lol:
OMG.... that is the same knife? I have heard on this forum & others that he is quite the expert at "fixing" things.
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tjmurphy wrote:Sorry. Couldn't help myself. ::doh::
No worries at all! You made me laugh after a long day at work! :D
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"There are none so blind as those that refuse to see"

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knifegirl888 wrote:OMG.... that is the same knife? I have heard on this forum & others that he is quite the expert at "fixing" things.
It sure is the same knife, look at the broken one closely the shield is so dirty you can hardly see it. After a new blade has been added, and all polished up it looks "Good" :roll:

I would not call him an expert ::td::

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The awful thing is that these "welded" knives, do not just stay on Ebay.

They do end up at knife/gun shows in the hands of unsuspecting sellers and buyers.

They get recycled, laundered, and are soon "clean", like dirty money. ::barf::

Millerbros,

I think you should post that link to the Walden in the counterfeit watch. Many buyers check that, and might miss this post. It is a good learning experience...
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JIM, the knife show is at the ADVERTURE LAND hotel in DES MOINES, or really at ALTOONA 8:00 SATURDAY the 23rd. I might be there myself.
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Robeson Charlie saw this knife, and got the contact info, and I ended up buying it. I had never seen one with dice, and only saw one poor picture. It looked like it had a brass ring around the hole, and this one is missing. I bet it came apart and the guy glued the lens back in deeper, because the dice don't have room to roll over. Other than that, it is a beauty!
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Brett, I'm sorry the dice game inlay is not right. I don't know enough about these to have known good from bad.

It looks as nice as I thought it was when I looked at it in Dalton a couple of weeks ago.

I hope you haven't been burned.

I get the impression you like the knife regardless. I hope that is the case.

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It is a good one Charlie and i like it. Thanks again!I don't know how it should look either, I am only guessing based on a bad picture.
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I think it is suppose to have a compass originally. I have seen another knife with little dice in the handle like this, however I cannot remember who the maker was. I do know I have not seen the dice offered in any of the original Catalog descriptions that I have.

Maybe JKB will weigh in on this one :wink:
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Brett, as I told you the other day, the only reason that knife even caught my eye was the previous discussion you, Kathy and Jack Knife Ben had on AAPK a while back. I knew you wanted one, so I stopped and took a look-see.

I'm glad you're pleased with it. ::nod::

But, MB's making me worry again. ::facepalm::

Now, I'll keep my eye out for the one with a compass. ::tu::

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