1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
I collect case stag from 1940-1980 and normally don't look at a plastic handled knife, but thought I would take a chance on this one.
I have concerns however.
1st- I don't have any knowledge when it comes to these older knives.
2nd - This looked too good to be true ( you know what they say about that).
3rd- three tang stamps seemed to me excessive for a 100 year old knife.
I would appreciate any feedback you have on the authenticity of this knife.
I have read in other posts about knives "gassing" do I need to worry about that with this knife and should I keep it away from my stags?
Any value range or ideas where I can obtain value?
I have concerns however.
1st- I don't have any knowledge when it comes to these older knives.
2nd - This looked too good to be true ( you know what they say about that).
3rd- three tang stamps seemed to me excessive for a 100 year old knife.
I would appreciate any feedback you have on the authenticity of this knife.
I have read in other posts about knives "gassing" do I need to worry about that with this knife and should I keep it away from my stags?
Any value range or ideas where I can obtain value?
Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
Don't know much about the patten. If I were a betting guy I would bet Fake
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Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
That's a complete fake, made out of a new stainless steel off-brand knife.
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Dam, I knew it looked too good. Steve, how can you tell its stainless steel?
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Afraid so.knifeaholic wrote:That's a complete fake, made out of a new stainless steel off-brand knife.
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Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
the few I have seen pop up on ebay that weren't made from Utica parts appeared to be made from frost knivesknifeaholic wrote:That's a complete fake, made out of a new stainless steel off-brand knife.
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Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
This reminds me exactly of a Rough Rider (Chinese made, SMKW house brand) I saw at Magic Mart recently.
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Your 3rd reason isn't correct. It's not uncommon to find multiple tang stamps on older Case knives, including pattern numbers etc. and including a stamp on front and back, it's the more modern ones that have less stamps (e.g. Case/Tested XX or Case/XX). As a matter of fact I would be wary of an older Case knife that DIDN'T have multiple tang stamps.
Many older manufacturers used a stamp on every blade and etched them to boot. Case is one of the minority that used only one stamp and practically never etched a blade (with the exception of a spey). That seems to me to be one of the reasons people "professionally" clean Case knives and pass them off for mint or near mint, there's no etch to worry about duplicating or to have to answer questions about.
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Many older manufacturers used a stamp on every blade and etched them to boot. Case is one of the minority that used only one stamp and practically never etched a blade (with the exception of a spey). That seems to me to be one of the reasons people "professionally" clean Case knives and pass them off for mint or near mint, there's no etch to worry about duplicating or to have to answer questions about.
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Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
What msteele said is true - however;
You will NEVER see an authentic Case Brothers knife with the CASE TESTED XX in a circle stamp on any blade. That stamp was only used by WR Case & Sons, and only after Case Brothers went under and WR Case & Sons acquired the Tested XX trademark.
A further note - does not apply to this knife but applies to a lot of fakes - is that Case Brothers never used any shield that had CASE on it.
You will NEVER see an authentic Case Brothers knife with the CASE TESTED XX in a circle stamp on any blade. That stamp was only used by WR Case & Sons, and only after Case Brothers went under and WR Case & Sons acquired the Tested XX trademark.
A further note - does not apply to this knife but applies to a lot of fakes - is that Case Brothers never used any shield that had CASE on it.
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Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
In my experience the "CASE XX in a circle" stamp is most prevalent on Case Bradford, and early Case Tested knives. These were both WR Case & Sons owned, but the knives were not stamped "WR Case & Sons" as earlier pre-Case Bradford knives were stamped. Were any WR Case & Sons stamped knives also stamped with Case Tested XX?knifeaholic wrote:What msteele said is true - however;
You will NEVER see an authentic Case Brothers knife with the CASE TESTED XX in a circle stamp on any blade. That stamp was only used by WR Case & Sons, and only after Case Brothers went under and WR Case & Sons acquired the Tested XX trademark.
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Re: 1914 Case tested Dogleg Gold Glitter
Ken; excellent question!! Wish I could answer it. Maybe someone will have some examples of knives so marked, maybe not.Mumbleypeg wrote:In my experience the "CASE XX in a circle" stamp is most prevalent on Case Bradford, and early Case Tested knives. These were both WR Case & Sons owned, but the knives were not stamped "WR Case & Sons" as earlier pre-Case Bradford knives were stamped. Were any WR Case & Sons stamped knives also stamped with Case Tested XX?knifeaholic wrote:What msteele said is true - however;
You will NEVER see an authentic Case Brothers knife with the CASE TESTED XX in a circle stamp on any blade. That stamp was only used by WR Case & Sons, and only after Case Brothers went under and WR Case & Sons acquired the Tested XX trademark.
Ken
I tend to think that the CASE XX in a circle stamp will not be found on the old WR Case stamped knives, but I am not certain.
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