Case XX 5254 Stag Trapper

[knifeaholic]

This Case XX 5254 trapper just ended. Sad that it went for a high price, since it is a bad fake.

As I often say, the fakes often go for higher prices than do genuine knives of the same pattern/stamping.

I have sold several nice XX 5254s on Ebay recently and only one went for a price in this range.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CASE-XX ... 7675.l2557

[junebug]

BOY HOWDY AM I GLAD I DON'T CHASE THEM "BUFFED UP SHINY CASEXX UNITS"......

IT DONT LOOK LIKE A FAKE TO ME....... ONLY THING I DO SEE BAD IS THE PIC THAT SHOWS THE BACK
SPRING VIEW,WITH BLADES OPEN = ALMOST LAST PIC

THE BLADES DO NOT MATCH UP TO THE SPRINGS - GAPPY- SIZES DONT MATCH ETC....

THE REST ........ I AM NOT SURE I COULD TELL

THANKS FOR POSTIN AS USUAL GUYS!!!

[wornoutwrench]

Steve, please give us the run down on what you see wrong. I don't trust those shiny knives out of Kentucky either, but aside from the blade width as JB mentioned, I don't really see much wrong.
Thanks in advance.

[btrwtr]

A lot of repetitive pictures with no clear look at the stamp but does not look good in the pictures. Looks like newer than XX stag with a shaved tang, restamped blade.

Wayne

[Slomo]

I would never know that was a fake, I'd spend my money and be all happy thinking I had something great only to eventually *maybe* find out that it was a fake. Even with the errors you guys are pointing out I still don't see anything obvious. Clearly my lack of experience and knowledge will set me up to be the perfect victim especially as the shiny ones do often times catch my eyes. In seeing how many fakes you guys post and being from Kentucky where evidently a lot of them come from it really makes me leery of continuing to try to collect at all. Hopefully before I fall victim to one of the fakes I will have learned enough from you guys to at least help me to spot some of the more obvious things.

Thanks for sharing the pictures and parting with your knowledge guys it's seriously appreciated....now I'm off to look at the pictures again to see if I can find anything at all to help me learn how to spot a fake

[rea1eye]

Looking at the pictures, what shows it is a fake?

Have the blades been replaced?

Bob

Still learning knife collecting.

[jlw257]

Look at the Bolsters, Master Clip Blade, Tang Stamp, and Pins
Then look at picture below and see the difference.

If you can't tell the difference , let one of us know and we'll be glad to help
Larry

[knifeaholic]

What Larry said...

In my opinion the fake knife started out as an early 80's Case 3254 or 6254. Restamped, pattern number stamped, stag handles replacing the original yellow or bone.

Case's tooling changed quite a bit over the years, especially after about 1977-78 when they changed to new blanking processes. The shape of the frame and the blades, especially the master blade, changed in ways that may seem subtle but when you compare the knives in hand they are way different.

Also, the stag on the fake is not as refined or finished as nicely as it will be on an older one. It more resembles the chunkier stag handles of the Case stag set knives from 77 through 81. And the fake has a very bad tang stamp.

[jlw257]

Thanks Steve.


Larry

[wornoutwrench]

This might make comparing them a bit easier. I see the clip blade profile is very obviously different. I thought only the Tested knives had the smaller bottom bolsters. Liner/handle profile is more complicated on the real XX knife.
Thanks.

[jlw257]

W.O.W.
Here is a group of Case Knives ( Tested - 10 Dot ) that I posted in a different thread on the differences in the Bolsters and Blade

Larry

[wornoutwrench]

Excellent, thanks.

[FRJ]

I wasn't aware of the smaller cap bolster on older case knives. Good to know.